All dogs to be microchipped

Conmaicne Mara

I wonder how are they going to enforce this? As someone who's had sheep killed, and seen neighbours sheep killed I like the sound of it.

reilig

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I wonder how are they going to enforce this? As someone who's had sheep killed, and seen neighbours sheep killed I like the sound of it.

Hopefully it will happen. Heard them say on the radio that it will take a few years to bring it in. Too many people got away without having to pay with their dogs having killed sheep. It would certainly put farmers in a much better position.

meoklmrk91

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I wonder how are they going to enforce this? As someone who's had sheep killed, and seen neighbours sheep killed I like the sound of it.

While I am massively in favour of it I am worried about enforcement. All horses are meant to chipped too but only something like 10% of them are. I would imagine that they would need to hire a lot more dog wardens than there are in order to enforce it.

Fiskar

About time, too many stray dogs with owners who don't even have a dog licence.

Hope this is not because dogs are ending up like horses in the food chain :eek:

Conmaicne Mara

Fiskar wrote: »

About time, too many stray dogs with owners who don't even have a dog licence.

Hope this is not because dogs are ending up like horses in the food chain :eek:

Yeah, did I hear Coveney refer to the horse scandal when talking about micro chipping dogs? Perhaps they have been inspecting Chinese restaurants. Either way I hope the Chinese I sometimes frequent keep doing whatever it is they do, as it's very tasty indeed.

Fiskar

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Yeah, did I hear Coveney refer to the horse scandal when talking about micro chipping dogs? Perhaps they have been inspecting Chinese restaurants. Either way I hope the Chinese I sometimes frequent keep doing whatever it is they do, as it's very tasty indeed.

Prefer the chicken chow mein myself, hope there is no sea gull in it.

Imagine it, micro chip the dogs, fine each one that poops (especially in Cork City) and their owner, mega cash cow for the government plus the added benefit of a dog census!

Kovu

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I wonder how are they going to enforce this? As someone who's had sheep killed, and seen neighbours sheep killed I like the sound of it.

There's a greyhound going around here at the moment and while I don't know the owner, I have an inkling:rolleyes:

Next time it appears I'm sticking a note in it's collar.
If it appears on the land again after that. Bang Bang.:eek:

Can't say I didn't warn them.

Conmaicne Mara

My warning shot is usually my second one

Kovu

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

My warning shot is usually my second one

Bad shot? :P

I'm not great but I can hit a target at 40 metres. Father taught me well

Conmaicne Mara

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Bad shot? :P

I'm not great but I can hit a target at 40 metres. Father taught me well

Only at the funfair lol.

300 is my limit

Damo810

Fiskar wrote: »

About time, too many stray dogs with owners who don't even have a dog licence.

Hope this is not because dogs are ending up like horses in the food chain :eek:

You think the ones who don't have a license will go and get their dogs chipped?

Kovu

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Only at the funfair lol.

300 is my limit

A shotgun covers many targets! I'm just thinking about all the dogs that will be euthanised now.

Viewtodiefor

Fiskar wrote: »

Prefer the chicken chow mein myself, hope there is no sea gull in it.

Imagine it, micro chip the dogs, fine each one that poops (especially in Cork City) and their owner, mega cash cow for the government plus the added benefit of a dog census!

What the hell! Is this for real or just an early April joke??

Conmaicne Mara

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

What the hell! Is this for real or just an early April joke??

Micro chipping all dogs is for real.

Figerty

Damo810 wrote: »

You think the ones who don't have a license will go and get their dogs chipped?

I don't know anyone with a dog license. You would be laughed at if you said you were getting a licence for a dog.

I can't see anyone gettings dog chipped as well. Bit like Brendan days rod licence.

Coveny is beginning to become an attention seeker

Dampintheattic

More jobs for the boys. More easy money for a certain profession. Some things never change.

Qualitymark

I have a dog licence; it has nearly doubled in price, from €12 to €20.

I'm all for microchipping - any dog or cat I've had in the last 30 years has been chipped - but this scheme seems badly thought out. The idea that it's going to cost €50 per animal in these straitened times... well, it's just that politicians on their unjustifiably huge salaries

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2012/1027/1224325772087.html

THE SALARY for a member of Dáil Éireann is €92,672 and that for a Senator €65,621. It’s not bad money in the current climate, but the focus of public resentment in recent days is the expenses and allowances that go with the jobs, especially at a time when other public-sector allowances are under scrutiny.
A Dublin-based TD could have a package worth almost €200,000, including unvouched expenses and two secretaries or parliamentary assistants at a combined salary of €70,000, in the first year after election. With vouched expenses he or she could be pulling in about €210,000. If the TD lived in a far-flung district of Co Kerry, extra travel expenses would bring the figure to about €235,000 – and if the deputy were an Independent there would be €41,152 on top of that, making a total of about €276,000 before tax.
<snip>

can't imagine the difficulty normal people are having in making ends meet. "€50 for microchipping?" they probably think, "sure, that's easily managed. €20 for a dog licence? Easy-peasy!" - not realising that for many people that €20 is a chunk out of the food money, and €50 knocks the budget right off kilter.

As for dogs being let roam, no dog owner should allow this regularly, though of course it's possible for a pet to get lost occasionally. I wouldn't be for shooting a dog unless it's attacking animals; but you could always drop it to the pound, so its owner will have to pay a fee to get it back.

zenno

While all that in the farming community is all good and well getting the animals micro-chipped, but when the hell are they going to micro-chip the scangers here in Dublin ? so we can keep a more watchful eye on them.

Scanger-chips should be brought in, but the scangbangers would think a micro-chip is something their local chipper sells.

Damo810

Qualitymark wrote: »

I have a dog licence; it has nearly doubled in price, from €12 to €20.

I'm all for microchipping - any dog or cat I've had in the last 30 years has been chipped - but this scheme seems badly thought out. The idea that it's going to cost €50 per animal in these straitened times... well, it's just that politicians on their unjustifiably huge salaries

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2012/1027/1224325772087.html

THE SALARY for a member of Dáil Éireann is €92,672 and that for a Senator €65,621. It’s not bad money in the current climate, but the focus of public resentment in recent days is the expenses and allowances that go with the jobs, especially at a time when other public-sector allowances are under scrutiny.
A Dublin-based TD could have a package worth almost €200,000, including unvouched expenses and two secretaries or parliamentary assistants at a combined salary of €70,000, in the first year after election. With vouched expenses he or she could be pulling in about €210,000. If the TD lived in a far-flung district of Co Kerry, extra travel expenses would bring the figure to about €235,000 – and if the deputy were an Independent there would be €41,152 on top of that, making a total of about €276,000 before tax.
<snip>

can't imagine the difficulty normal people are having in making ends meet. "€50 for microchipping?" they probably think, "sure, that's easily managed. €20 for a dog licence? Easy-peasy!" - not realising that for many people that €20 is a chunk out of the food money, and €50 knocks the budget right off kilter.

As for dogs being let roam, no dog owner should allow this regularly, though of course it's possible for a pet to get lost occasionally. I wouldn't be for shooting a dog unless it's attacking animals; but you could always drop it to the pound, so its owner will have to pay a fee to get it back.

I think the majority of us in this section have realised we've gone and picked the wrong profession! 235,000 = 4519 per week for doing sfa!

ynul31f47k6b59

Some vets are doing it for €15 in our area in a few weeks time.

I'd be all for getting it done, I have a licence for him so why not get him microchipped too.

Qualitymark

What area is that, Shanno?

delaval

Micro chip dogs, Attention seeking lip service. My nearest sheep farmer who is a good shot shoots any unaccompanied dog on his land or land adjecent. No wandering dogs in his area

KatyMac

Have two dogs both of which were dumped on the road. Both have licences now, but don't think at €50 a pop I'll be chipping them. they are never out unaccompanied anyway. If the Dog Warden arrives looking to see if they have been chipped he will be leaving with them under his arm.

Bizzum

It's a good idea. IF enforced. In recent years all pedigree dogs had to be chipped before they could be IKC reg.
A bigger issue is that in itself microchipping will solve nothing unless the chips are registered to the owner. There are thousands of dogs out there, chipped, and registered only to the breeder, who sold them on at 8 weeks and has no idea, or in many cases cares little where the pup ended up. So unless the chip is traceable back to the owner, it's of limited value.
Compulsory Microchipping registered to the current owner though is a good start.

delaval

Bizzum wrote: »

It's a good idea. IF enforced. In recent years all pedigree dogs had to be chipped before they could be IKC reg.
A bigger issue is that in itself microchipping will solve nothing unless the chips are registered to the owner. There are thousands of dogs out there, chipped, and registered only to the breeder, who sold them on at 8 weeks and has no idea, or in many cases cares little where the pup ended up. So unless the chip is traceable back to the owner, it's of limited value.
Compulsory Microchipping registered to the current owner though is a good start.

Movement permit:eek::eek:

moy83

I cant think of the name of the shop but the sister brought her mutts in there one weekend and got them chipped for 15 euro each in the wellpark estate in Galway , they do this deal every now and then so its worth watching .
No more than the licence's the wrong people wont bother their holes chipping their dogs and I dont see it making much difference to farmers either way . If they are after stock you wont have many chances to bring them in and read their microchips , it will be alot easier to lie over the wall and land a bullet on them

Bizzum

delaval wrote: »

Movement permit:eek::eek:

Absolutely. If that's what it takes. Let the Dept of Ag. handle it. Keep em busy!

Kovu

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Last-Hope-Charity/473505276009904?ref=stream

Anyone near Navan, keep in touch with these guys as they will be holding a €10 microchipping day soon.

grazeaway

i reckon all dogs should be chipped. A 1 off fee to chip the animal would be better then a yearly linece. Too many people out there who are not lookign after the animals. If they have to pay up front for it and have it tied to them then they might be more inclined to be responsible owners.

grazeaway

delaval wrote: »

Micro chip dogs, Attention seeking lip service. My nearest sheep farmer who is a good shot shoots any unaccompanied dog on his land or land adjecent. No wandering dogs in his area

is he allowed to shoot on adjectent land?

neighbour has sheep and i dont let my dogs over the boundry ditch. that said if they are with me when im fencing or herding they could be chasing each in the feild im in and in the next one (mine of course)

Qualitymark

Now, in the ultimate deckchairs-on-the-Titanic move, Varadkar wants all dogs to be compulsorily belted in if they're in cars. To tackle the horror of many people killed each year by flying dogs' bodies, of course. Holy God tonight!

Conmaicne Mara

I think that's been law for a fair while has it not, restraining dogs in cars?

fredweena

This is so different from the discussion going on about this in the pet forum! Some of the comments about dogs on other people's land are amazing there. If you want to cause outrage say that your dog sleeps in the shed and you feed him on scraps. Someone nearly got lynched for saying they feed pedigree chum to their dog as it's apparently like junk food. Mad!

Qualitymark

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I think that's been law for a fair while has it not, restraining dogs in cars?

Not that I know of - citation?

I actually did buy my dog those harnesses - twice. She found them delicious.

Conmaicne Mara

Qualitymark wrote: »

citation?

My sister ( :pac: ) said something about it before.

Suckler

Bizzum wrote: »

It's a good idea. IF enforced. In recent years all pedigree dogs had to be chipped before they could be IKC reg.
A bigger issue is that in itself microchipping will solve nothing unless the chips are registered to the owner. There are thousands of dogs out there, chipped, and registered only to the breeder, who sold them on at 8 weeks and has no idea, or in many cases cares little where the pup ended up. So unless the chip is traceable back to the owner, it's of limited value.
Compulsory Microchipping registered to the current owner though is a good start.

I agree it won't work unless it is transferable. However I don't want to see another Quango set up or another item added to a vets role, it'll end up a complete money spinner for those on the inside. I've stated here before that there needs to be oversight but dogs aren't entering the food chain (China/Korea excluded obviously )