ULSU EGM - 16th April 2013 @ 6pm - Venue TBC

wnolan1992

Meeting: Emergency General Meeting
Date: Tuesday 16th April 2013
Venue: TBC
Time: 18:00
Quorum: 200

Agenda

1. Apologies
2. Minutes of Previous Meetings
3. Motions and Resolutions
   - Motion to establish a new company ‘ULSU Trading Ltd’
   - Motion to ratify the new constitution
   - Motion to stop printing ULSU Publications (An Focal)
   - Ratify the Audited Accounts for the year ended 30th September 2012
   - Ratify the Union Auditor for AY 2012/2013
4. AOB

Another attempt at a 6pm meeting. Hopefully it goes a little better than the last one where less than 100 people showed up IIRC.

Polar Ice

If they don't reach quorum can it be wound down and all the SU stuff reverts to C&S?

Jester252

A two weeks notice. The SU are to kind to us.

reunion

Just a reminder about this on Tuesday

Sean Trinity

A scrapped poster design for the EGM

Jester252

Because it was broken?

J_E

Sort of related, but what's the story with the ULSU and C&S having the same Wolves branding? It's really confusing in a sense, doesn't seem to have any rationale behind it, and I thought C&S wanted to be seen as having a degree of independence anyway.

Jester252

Cydoniac wrote: »

Sort of related, but what's the story with the ULSU and C&S having the same Wolves branding? It's really confusing in a sense, doesn't seem to have any rationale behind it, and I thought C&S wanted to be seen as having a degree of independence anyway.

Its a university logo (in sort) so that C&S and ULSU out in public can be identified from UL.

Polar Ice

So what's happening to the ULSU logo then?

Jester252

You know when the ULSU is irrelevant to the average student when the SU has to bribe student so 200 out of 11,000 will show up

freyners

Its looks like it made quorum

freyners

Confirmed that we have made quorum

Someone has asked to view the accounts, someone question whats covered by the exceptional items, for an engineer he asked a real accountant question if there ever was one.

Exceptional items are basically the debts ran up by the shop.

Riveting stuff really

reunion

Chair: next motion is discussion for a new constitution.
Does anyone want more information?
1 randomer: I would
30 hour description

Ginge Young

Glad to see the meeting made quorum, and despite the comments here it's good to see people are asking questions, it's what it's for. Granted, I'm in Plassey and not sitting there listening to the descriptions. Couldn't swap with the other RA.

wnolan1992

Any updates on motions passed/rejected?

J_E

I wonder was it the bribing of prizes on the poster that made the quorum happen?

Jester252 wrote: »

Its a university logo (in sort) so that C&S and ULSU out in public can be identified from UL.

I don't buy it...I think it's weakening the brand if anything. I just think it's a bit of a vague movement.

reunion

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Any updates on motions passed/rejected?

All passed except the one stopping printing of ulsu publications.

That failed on a majority of about 2-1. A count wasn't taken.

Polar Ice

Jester252 wrote: »

Its a university logo (in sort) so that C&S and ULSU out in public can be identified from UL.

Cydoniac wrote: »

I don't buy it...I think it's weakening the brand if anything. I just think it's a bit of a vague movement.

Could someone explain this. What's the deal with the two logos?
I always thought the Wolves logo was introduced to represent Clubs and Societies as a collective. The description on the Wolves website agrees with this

Jester252

Polar Ice wrote: »

Could someone explain this. What's the deal with the two logos?
I always thought the Wolves logo was introduced to represent Clubs and Societies as a collective. The description on the Wolves website agrees with this

I don't know. The SU does what the SU wants.

Ginge Young

On Tuesday the 12th of February 2013 a matter arising from on the Clubs and Societies Council Agenda was that of the UL Wolves Branding. A report was given by the C&S Executive that outlined the future development of the brand.

That included collaboration between the SU and C&S to promote it. There were 2 parts to this report, both of which were passed unanimously. Part 2 in particular states that of any major decisions to be made on the brand that approval will be sought from both councils, and that they subsequently must agree for the Brand Development Committee to proceed with any strategic decisions.

J_E

Fair enough, I just thought it strange that they sought being integrated with ULSU's image when I got the impression they were seeking a degree of independence, between the controversial money issue a while back and also the talks further back about C&S setting up a separate bank account. I understand the idea of promoting the brand further though if it means extra revenue and the like for both parties.

lkionm

On more important issues, what free stuff was in the bags?

VanishingActs

A rainbow dust straw, a lollipop, orange juice, a Refresher chewy sweet, tiny Love Hearts packet, a pack of crisps, a lollipop and a condom...

Polar Ice

J_E

VanishingActs wrote: »

A rainbow dust straw, a lollipop, orange juice, a Refresher chewy sweet, tiny Love Hearts packet, a pack of crisps, a lollipop and a condom...

Man...I'm sorry but that's kind of hilarious. Throw sweets and condoms at the students, bribing them to go to a meeting they probably had little interest in anyway. Just seems like a bit of a patch-up job for a bigger problem, but hey, it works apparently

Jester252

Cydoniac wrote: »

Man...I'm sorry but that's kind of hilarious. Throw sweets and condoms at the students, bribing them to go to a meeting they probably had little interest in anyway. Just seems like a bit of a patch-up job for a bigger problem, but hey, it works apparently

Why fix the leaking tap when your moving out in a couple of weeks that some else problem.

reunion

Cydoniac wrote: »

Man...I'm sorry but that's kind of hilarious. Throw sweets and condoms at the students, bribing them to go to a meeting they probably had little interest in anyway. Just seems like a bit of a patch-up job for a bigger problem, but hey, it works apparently

it's how voting works on campus (not entirely!).

Nearly every C&S offers free finger food and a drink to the members who attend their own general meetings. Actually I'm struggling to think of any general meeting, that I've been to, where there has been zero incentive for people to attend (except the thrill of the meeting itself).

Though I wouldn't put it down to just the sweets as attracting people, the 2 weeks notice did help.




More importantly, where were the random spot prizes during the meeting?

J_E

reunion wrote: »

Though I wouldn't put it down to just the sweets as attracting people, the 2 weeks notice did help.

The 6PM time helped a lot too I reckon. When they have it on a time like 2PM when most people are in class I just don't see the point.

wnolan1992

Cydoniac wrote: »

The 6PM time helped a lot too I reckon. When they have it on a time like 2PM when most people are in class I just don't see the point.

Didn't help much the last time they did it. Held it straight after Class Reps meeting in the same room and it didn't even break the 100 mark IIRC.

Jester252

Not surprised so few CRs showed up to that one after having a hour long meeting. I say most just wanted something to eat.
But they learned from that. This time it was in place of a CR meeting.

freyners

What helped was actually publising the meeting for once instead of giving notice the day before, free stuff also helps although the lack of random spot prizes was disappointing.

Apart from my flippancy here the actual meeting it was kinda good to see stuff actually get done for once. Also the motion re an focal was funny enough, a battle between the editor of an focal and the motion proposer of who least wanted to be on stage

Evergreen23

Do officers of the SU bother to come onto this to clarify matters?

lkionm

Evergreen23 wrote: »

Do officers of the SU bother to come onto this to clarify matters?

Its boards. Why would they bother talking to anonymous people when they have their office and facebook?
or members of 2 months and 5 posts commenting on a month old meeting.

There is only about 5/10 people on boards from ul and most are in 4th year.

Chavways

lkionm wrote: »

Its boards. Why would they bother talking to anonymous people when they have their office and facebook?
or members of 2 months and 5 posts commenting on a month old meeting.

There is only about 5/10 people on boards from ul and most are in 4th year.

There's a lot more on here than you think.

Jester252

Chavways wrote: »

There's a lot more on here than you think.

Damn lurkers

Chavways

Jester252 wrote: »

Damn lurkers

They creep in the shadows.

reunion

Evergreen23 wrote: »

Do officers of the SU bother to come onto this to clarify matters?

Because of the negative publicity the SU received due to a certain individual in a now ceased sabbat position; the SU has decided that individual sabbats can't comment on boards (and other forums). They can read boards however. The general manager will respond if required (as he has done in the past).

That's what I've heard anyway...

freyners

reunion wrote: »

Because of the negative publicity the SU received due to a certain individual in a now ceased sabbat position; the SU has decided that individual sabbats can't comment on boards (and other forums). They can read boards however. The general manager will respond if required (as he has done in the past).

That's what I've heard anyway...

Hardly an improvement, his limited entrances here remind me of this scenario

Polar Ice

reunion wrote: »

the SU has decided that individual sabbats can't comment on boards

:P:pac::D:):rolleyes::cool:

reunion wrote: »

The general manager will respond if required (as he has done in the past).

freyners wrote: »

Hardly an improvement, his limited entrances here remind me of this scenario

You know he's going to ask you to take down that image :pac:

SUGeneral manager wrote: »

As General Manager of ULSU I must request that all boards users cease making allegations and innuendo about ULSU officers or staff through publicly accessible and non verifiable media such as boards. Genuine concerns should be brought directly to the attention of myself sugeneralmanager@ul.ie or the President supresident@ul.ie immediately, otherwise such comments are seen as malicious and damaging to ULSU and will be dealt with accordingly. (PM)

Jester252

freyners wrote: »

Hardly an improvement, his limited entrances here remind me of this scenario

Someone never saw that episode of Mythbusters

J_E

SUGeneral manager wrote: »

As General Manager of ULSU I must request that all boards users cease making allegations and innuendo about ULSU officers or staff through publicly accessible and non verifiable media such as boards. Genuine concerns should be brought directly to the attention of myself sugeneralmanager@ul.ie or the President supresident@ul.ie immediately, otherwise such comments are seen as malicious and damaging to ULSU and will be dealt with accordingly. (PM)

Are you freaking kidding me!? Talk about delusions of grandeur. Any respect I had for the man has just shot downwards. Talk about inappropriate conduct of a professional, thinking they can police the internet like they can their bubble-world in the SU.

lkionm

D'ye reckon if we turn off the lights and start saying inflammatory things about Paddy doing coke off Kellys arse and Cathal and Adam moonlighting selling condoms and spin around 3 times he will appear?

Or just call him fat?

Ave Sodalis

Aha it's a good thing I missed that quote when it was put up

Evergreen23

Cydoniac wrote: »

Are you freaking kidding me!? Talk about delusions of grandeur. Any respect I had for the man has just shot downwards. Talk about inappropriate conduct of a professional, thinking they can police the internet like they can their bubble-world in the SU.

This is ridiculous!!!

The use of a forum allows for public debate, god knows the ULsu General Manager Facebook page is almost redundant.

What is the policy on the SU regarding kickbacks? i.e. If a local pub gives the SU drink vouchers, is this disclosed to the public? Heard from another of bars in Limerick that this was the case, disturbing particularly when you hear that co-op students aren't getting a cent from the SU!!!!