Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Is there more than one series left in it?

  • 27-03-2013 1:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭


    I've no idea how the show is doing in the States , but is the next series likely to be the last? I don't know anything about the comics so there might be a rake of good stories but I am wondering how long they can keep coming up with interesting new bad guys. They have done an urban setting, underground bunker, rural setting and now a settlement run by a crazy man. Whats left apart from reaching some civilised enclave or else all getting killed? Most of the characters seem to have run their course and there would appear to be a limit in introducing new members for their group every episode.

    Thoughts?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Considering the ratings, I think AMC will keep it alive as long as possible. Will be very interesting to see where they take the show next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    They need to do the obligitory " we need to find an island " and maybe perhaps go to said island, then we are done....................

    That or i would be a big fan of rebooting back to the beginning with a different set of people ...... the walking dead game had a great story that translate well.

    Honestly i feel im getting a bit bored of walking dead now...... previous seasons i couldnt wait to watch each episode now im not too pushed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    They need to do the obligitory " we need to find an island " and maybe perhaps go to said island, then we are done....................

    That or i would be a big fan of rebooting back to the beginning with a different set of people ...... the walking dead game had a great story that translate well.

    Honestly i feel im getting a bit bored of walking dead now...... previous seasons i couldnt wait to watch each episode now im not too pushed.

    Im guessing they need a "quest", some info that will lead them to head off somewhere, they seem to be going round in circles. Island is good! An army base or naval base would be fun or an epic train ride through the Rockies a sorta Zombie Von Ryan's Express :). Whats also missing is any any info on the bigger picture. They need some teaser like jets in the distance or some communication with the outside.

    yeah, its got to the stage that I dont really care what happens to the characters anymore so a reboot might be interesting but would be unusual for a TV show. I still like the show though

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Sadly this show, although still very good in my opinion, will go the way all promising shows these days will go- flogged to death. Its so rare these days to get a show thats genuinely exciting with memorable characters and a strong script, that they will sadly drag it out well beyond its sell by date and p!ss all over its original ethos just for the money, its all about the money. High ratings equals expensive advertising equals megabucks for the network..the exact same thing happened with Lost, too.

    I think it only realistically has one more season in it, to wrap up the whole history of the virus, how much of the world is infected and is a cure being worked on. The characters have really come about as far as they can go (Rick has been to hell and back, Daryl has matured, Glenn and Maggie are now a rounded couple and nobody cares much about Andrea or Carol/Michonne, even the kid will have a growth spurt soon!) so unless Tyreese really steps it up a notch and becomes the next leader with a new group of people I cant see much interest in this show after a 4th series.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭SirDelboy18


    Sadly this show, although still very good in my opinion, will go the way all promising shows these days will go- flogged to death. Its so rare these days to get a show thats genuinely exciting with memorable characters and a strong script, that they will sadly drag it out well beyond its sell by date and p!ss all over its original ethos just for the money, its all about the money. High ratings equals expensive advertising equals megabucks for the network..the exact same thing happened with Lost, too.

    I think it only realistically has one more season in it, to wrap up the whole history of the virus, how much of the world is infected and is a cure being worked on. The characters have really come about as far as they can go (Rick has been to hell and back, Daryl has matured, Glenn and Maggie are now a rounded couple and nobody cares much about Andrea or Carol/Michonne, even the kid will have a growth spurt soon!) so unless Tyreese really steps it up a notch and becomes the next leader with a new group of people I cant see much interest in this show after a 4th series.

    This is cable, not network. That means things are different - while shows often go 5/6 seasons, very few go past their sell by date. AMC have very successful shows at the moment and with Breaking Bad entering Season 5 part 2 and better than ever, and Mad Men onto Season 6 and still strong - there is no reason for The Walking Dead to end if we look at how consistent the other flagship shows still are. With the viewership that it possesses, I would be truly amazed if it didn't last until a 6th season.

    Ratings are growing year on year. You're prediction of there not being much interest literally has no foundation and goes completely against the current trend.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    This is cable, not network. That means things are different - while shows often go 5/6 seasons, very few go past their sell by date. AMC have very successful shows at the moment and with Breaking Bad entering Season 5 part 2 and better than ever, and Mad Men onto Season 6 and still strong - there is no reason for The Walking Dead to end if we look at how consistent the other flagship shows still are. With the viewership that it possesses, I would be truly amazed if it didn't last until a 6th season.

    Ratings are growing year on year. You're prediction of there not being much interest literally has no foundation and goes completely against the current trend.

    Yes but cable or not, it still means big bucks for AMC for shows like The Walking Dead to go on and on, regardless of quality. The OP asked how many series does TWD have left. Probably a few more. But how many should it have left? One more, to tie up all the loose ends in my opinion. Breaking Bad is different because the main character is all it hinges on- if he dies then thats it shows over. But TWD can try audiences patience with constant deaths, leader changes etc until the plot has been exhausted beyond its natural lifetime. I cant see TWD working after a 4th season unless it pulls something major out of the hat..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭FlyingIrishMan


    Judging by the comics I'd say if they roughly follow that storyline like they've been doing so far they could get another two seasons out of it, and the comics are still on-going so could be even more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭SirDelboy18


    Yes but cable or not, it still means big bucks for AMC for shows like The Walking Dead to go on and on, regardless of quality. The OP asked how many series does TWD have left. Probably a few more. But how many should it have left? One more, to tie up all the loose ends in my opinion. Breaking Bad is different because the main character is all it hinges on- if he dies then thats it shows over. But TWD can try audiences patience with constant deaths, leader changes etc until the plot has been exhausted beyond its natural lifetime. I cant see TWD working after a 4th season unless it pulls something major out of the hat..

    Who is getting impatient? Like I am genuinely baffled by this entire post. People are enjoying the current series quite a bit. There are so many really good ready-made storylines for them to use. They could also decide to go in a completely different direction to the comics. I genuinely don't see why it wouldn't work after a fourth season.

    You give out about constant deaths - is that not an example of how it is keeping itself from becoming stale? With shows like Heroes for example nobody ever died despite the high stakes and it angered people, created a stale show (although there were so many other reasons for its eventual cancellation). The Walking Dead is a show where anything can happen and that is one of the reasons why it is so popular.

    The comics are still popular and I'm sure many will agree with me that there is loads of material that would make brilliant TV. I'm personally thinking about a major antagonist in particular, but not saying any more than that. They have a lot of scope to keep going in my view - you would surely be in the massive minority of those thinking there is only the potential for one seasons worth of storylines left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭allycavs


    I think they have to finish it like 28 days later/28 weeks later where the survivors are just over run. btw anyone think they will ever do a 3rd installment. 28 weeks later finished off in Paris. really left it open ended to do a third installment. 28 months later..


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    They need to move around, hear something about a cure, move towards that. No **** with the warden coming back as a villain randomly. He's a **** character now


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Ultimately the problem with zombie post apocalyptic stories is that they can only go 3 ways:

    (1) The zombies die off.
    (2) The humans struggle to co-exist with the zombies.
    (3) The humans die off.

    Unfortunately (1) and (3) dont have much potential for storylines so its always (2) and it gets repetitive.

    Ultimately the people can continue to have a variety of adventures or they can find a safe place and settle down. Settling down turns it into a soap opera in the midst of the walkers, and continuing to have a variety of adventures means that to keep viewers interested they have to come up with some great stuff - which they havent really been doing. They dragged out the farm, they dragged out the Governor, the character development is inconsistent, the writing is inconsistent, and the only consistent excellent element is the depiction of the walkers themselves! So although AMC will flog it for every cent they can, I think theyd be best to wrap it if they cant improve it.

    Shows have life spans, and its better to see a "finish" than a "ran out of story".


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    2 is definitely the most interestly, to make a great series they need it. However they've turned into a soap opera all right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    I think they have one more great season left in it as long as they tie up the loose ends like what exactly caused this disease, if a cure is being worked on or is there a safe haven like, indeed, a island and a link to whats left in the outside world. Ultimately this can only lead to one of two places- a fantastic stand off between the two groups of people left in the world (survivors and scientists intent on saving their research/using it to kill off other scientists etc) and only one group survive to live happily ever after. I hope the former is the choice because the latter just turns the show into a drab soap opera no different from Emmerdale or Coronation Street.

    The characters have come as far as they can go now and they cant go down the road of "move down the country, living in sheds and houses until they reach safety", thats been done and its boring to watch. They need to pick a destination like the coast and head there asap in Season 4, leaving the people at the prison to fend for themselves. The Governor is just a joke now and should have been killed in the finale. The makers of the show have said the walkers will become more prominent and threatening next season so that could be an interesting development but bar a fixed line of Head to Coast, explain origins of disease and have it out with the remaining survivors, I cant see how else they can end this show without dragging it out like they did to Lost....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    i say there will be 6 seasons of this and that be it. Great potential for a spin-off focusing entirely on a other set of survivors


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    ricero wrote: »
    i say there will be 6 seasons of this and that be it. Great potential for a spin-off focusing entirely on a other set of survivors

    I dont disagree, I think there is potential (and stories to be told) for many seasons. But specifically on how AMC are presenting it? Dragged out storylines and inconsistent writing, so can see the viewing population losing interest before theyd get to a sixth season.

    Its such a shame because it had great potential. You can see when you look at any online forums how excited people were for season 3 episode 1 and then how, over the course of the season, people became more and more frustrated and disappointed with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    I really hope the governor isn't the bad guy again. It would be cool if his story ran parallel to the main group but was kept separate. I like the reboot idea too. Now that walkers arent scary, even hordes, its lost a lot of its allure TWD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    There was plenty of potential there for more series' but a couple of things limited it IMO.

    *Staying in the prison.
    *Bringing back the Woodbury survivors.
    *Ending Rick's 'Rictatorship' arc.

    The writers said they didn't want a villain/storyline for every season but that's the way it works best. I fully expect the prison to be a different place by the beginning of the next season but what different can they do with it, they have had both walkers and other humans attack it.

    I said it before but I would have liked this season to end with the group having to leave the prison, and being split up. That could have led to half a season of them being split up focusing on individual storylines/interactions, then half a season of them reunited, and being on the road. Following season I would have liked to see them have an introduction to an already established community, but who actually welcomed them in. This would have worked well with power mad Rick, but not so much now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭tommy2bad


    Zombie Von Ryans Express !! Mental! you should be writing this show!
    The Governor isn't finished as a villain, Carl has issues to sort, so has Rick and Tyreese seems to have potential the be the moral center for the time anyway.
    The comic has a journey to civilization plot which pretty much is the last new thing it introduced and I expect the show to end after they do that one. How many seasons to get to that point? Piece of string type answer tbh. Depends on ratings and cost of continuing to film what must be a costly show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    Anyone looking for a cure/explanation will be disappointed I think. Kirkman has always been adamant that he's not interested in that area. There's characters in the comic that throw about theories and try to study the walkers but never any conclusive notions really.

    II think the next series will finally branch away fully from the comics, keeping some key moments but adding a whole lot of new ones. Anyone trying to figure out how much longevity the show has should wait and see what they conjure up next season IMO, I reckon they'll finally have some bleeding clue what they want to do!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Why are they in the prison when they have a whole village?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    Why are they in the prison when they have a whole village?
    Easier to defend the prison. Plus the whole "we shed blood for it" side of things, Rick won't leave it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    niallon wrote: »
    Easier to defend the prison. Plus the whole "we shed blood for it" side of things, Rick won't leave it

    No, Tar's right; there is no actual value for the characters in staying there. It's being kept because it's a good visual location for the showrunner and they want to keep the whole 'prison arc' going. Bullshit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    No, Tar's right; there is no actual value for the characters in staying there. It's being kept because it's a good visual location for the showrunner and they want to keep the whole 'prison arc' going. Bullshit.
    I never said I agreed with the fruit loop that is Rick Grimes, just putting out the common consensus! ;-)

    To be fair though the prison could be good given how much of it hasn't been explored in this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭touts


    The problem with guessing where the show is going to end up is that there is no hope. The CDC in season 1 showed that there is no cure in the pipeline and there is no government in hiding. Season 2 showed us that they are all infected. Season 3 showed us that the remaining survivors are more dangerous than the zombies and even an apparent safe haven like a prison or a walled town is an illusion of safety. The only uncertainty is how each of them will die first as a human and then as a zombie.

    That's fairly depressing stuff and in some respects limits the choices of the writers but in another way means they can't take any easy options that could kill the show (e.g. We're Alive
    fly off in a helicopter to an army base in the desert and end up writing off a whole season
    or Falling Skies
    Have an alien ship land outside with potential new allies to join your fight. Stupid plot twist of the year award right there
    . In the Walking Dead they are taking none of those easy, lazy and potentially toxic story lines. It'll be a grim, gritty, emotional and local struggle to cling on to life and will end when the audience just can't take any more possibly with a final scene of Rick or Carl or Daryl alone and weeping at the inevitability of their defeat.

    However long more it run for it's going to be a tough depressing ride and while I suspect TV history will rate it as one of the most depressing shows ever produced it will also be one with iconic characters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    I've lost all interest since they
    killed off Merle, he was the one really interesting character since the start and then they go and snuff him.


Advertisement