how much to charge for silage...?

awaywithyou

we are selling some silage to a man down the road from us...

its good quality silage

what should we be charging?

royalmeath

About 4 euros a bale would be plenty. Seriously you could probably charge what
you want, I heard of a fella looking for 40 notes a bale.

darragh_haven

We are selling good quality silage from the pit at €40 a ton.

royalmeath

darragh_haven wrote: »

We are selling good quality silage from the pit at €40 a ton.

Isnt the farming community great how when our fellow farmers are stuck for fodder we are perfectly willing to rip them off. Their is no way any silage is worth the colour of 40 euro

49801

you could charge what you like atm...
we're charging €30/ton collected out of the pit. Prob cost us close to €25/ton to put it there, fert+harvesting+land charge. Could of charged €35easy if not €40 but we're building a long term business arrangement with this man and its more than just a one off trade.

Timmaay

All depends on quality, 40e/ton of say 75+dmd, 30%dm silage works out much better than alot of the low 60s dmd wet muck that is been sold at 25euro/bale! Granted there probably wasn't much pit silage around the 30%dm mark made last year!

darragh_haven

royalmeath wrote: »

Isnt the farming community great how when our fellow farmers are stuck for fodder we are perfectly willing to rip them off. Their is no way any silage is worth the colour of 40 euro

Aren't some of the farming community very judgmental!

It was cut on the 18th of May, and wilted for over 24hours. 40 euro a ton of our 74 dmd silage is a sight better to a neighbour who was buying bales of ****e for 32 euro. A 3rd of his bales were being left uneaten. The pit silage is being cleaned out.

whelan1

i `suppose the main thing to consider when charging is what goes around comes around.... my da was saying he was getting silage off a fella years ago and when he went to pay the farmer said he didnt want any money as my da had sorted out a problem for him 20 years previous:eek:

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

i `suppose the main thing to consider when charging is what goes around comes around.... my da was saying he was getting silage off a fella years ago and when he went to pay the farmer said he didnt want any money as my da had sorted out a problem for him 20 years previous:eek:

I've just experienced the opposite . The father would give you the shirt off his back and a few years ago when silage was short he gave a neighbour eight dumptrailers of the pit silage piled to the hilt . He didnt want any money because he knew the chap was caught out for the year that was in it . Now yer man did give him 100 euros which didnt come close to the price of the silage BUT I called in to said neighbour on friday because he is selling bales this year . He told me he was getting 40 snots a bale and had most of them sold but he will keep me a few if they are any good at that price :mad:
W^^ker

whelan1

moy83 wrote: »

I've just experienced the opposite . The father would give you the shirt off his back and a few years ago when silage was short he gave a neighbour eight dumptrailers of the pit silage piled to the hilt . He didnt want any money because he knew the chap was caught out for the year that was in it . Now yer man did give him 100 euros which didnt come close to the price of the silage BUT I called in to said neighbour on friday because he is selling bales this year . He told me he was getting 40 snots a bale and had most of them sold but he will keep me a few if they are any good at that price :mad:
W^^ker

ask him is he going to include the money he is getting for the bales in his tax returns:D

Tipp Man

royalmeath wrote: »

Isnt the farming community great how when our fellow farmers are stuck for fodder we are perfectly willing to rip them off. Their is no way any silage is worth the colour of 40 euro

Fodder is a market the same as any other market, supply low, demand high then prices will be high.

As long as he isn't selling pure crap then he is entitled to charge what he wants for it - nobody twisting the buyers arm to pay that for it

49801

I agree there is some opportunism going on with some of the prices I've heard people discussing.

Nutrient off take of fodder sold is not insignificant

Sold our few bales at €30/bale. Average quality.

Irishmale

sold some nice stuff for 30 e a bale.

Conor556

royalmeath wrote: »

Isnt the farming community great how when our fellow farmers are stuck for fodder we are perfectly willing to rip them off. Their is no way any silage is worth the colour of 40 euro

Not much difference between selling good silage for €40 a tonne and last spring when good suck calves were making >€600 at 3-4 weeks old, i bet if you walked out of a mart last year after selling calves for a rob you would be smiling from cheek to cheek and you wouldnt be worrying about the "fellow farmers" you sold them to, i doubt that you would offer the same quality calves for €300 to help "fellow farmers", if there is demand then price rises simple economics! I bet the farmer that is buying the silage is dam glad that he is able to get it!

grange mac

whelan1 wrote: »

ask him is he going to include the money he is getting for the bales in his tax returns:D

Sold truck of bales to fella who was underpressure...I could tell. Bales last june no rain wilted overnight said what goes around so 25e collected. They were big fusion bales I have enough for 2 weeks and out aft that. Cant stand people who take advantage, dont work like that...

milkprofit

From experience very hard to get paid for Silage

Robson99

grange mac wrote: »

Sold truck of bales to fella who was underpressure...I could tell. Bales last june no rain wilted overnight said what goes around so 25e collected. They were big fusion bales I have enough for 2 weeks and out aft that. Cant stand people who take advantage, dont work like that...

Surely it is costing the guts of 20e per bale to make. Selling 50 bales to make 250e is mad. Dont buy into people saying that they dont want to get the best price they can. Would people sell cattle or sheep for a small profit at the mart because they feel sorry for the man buying... i dont think so.

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

ask him is he going to include the money he is getting for the bales in his tax returns:D

I have a feeling he wasnt selling them for 40 at all but just saying that to put me off taking them incase I was going to return his 100 euro stunt (which I wasnt )
But anyway I got silage today at 30 delivered so that will do me for awhile

mahoney_j

Lads a question when ye say good bales etc do ye mean good looking stuff or silage that has actually been anyalised as good.There is more often than not a huge difference.I always plan on making more than i need of as good quality stuff as i can.One main cut which will be cut by end of third week of may and then through grassmeasuerementand use of wedge through main season i will bale often and hard often getting anything from 3 to 5 bales to the acre.as for selling silage it isnt something i would never contempleate doing as u never know when during the year u might need it.Made the mistake a few years back of telling a neighbour he could take 20 bales off me from an outside farm as he was badly stuck,He ended up taking all 50 that were there and said nothing.I didnt want anything for the 20 i said he could take but same guy arrived to my yard one day for a loan of a car trailer and i said it to him and he replied to me sure i knew u wouldnt them so i fired away!!.Anyway i said i wanted 15 a bale for the extra 30 he took and hetold me to fcuk off.Right so says i u aint getting the trailor and dont come back to this yard again .H threw a lot of expletives my way and havnt talked to him since

Muckit

royalmeath wrote: »

About 4 euros a bale would be plenty.

In reality that's all a lad would be getting for his silage selling at €22 a bale.

You'I still have lads looking for good bales at this price though. Who is doing who with 'mad bale prices'? Taking up ground for 8 weeks, who's the fool?

Muckit

mahoney_j wrote: »

Made the mistake a few years back of telling a neighbour he could take 20 bales off me from an outside farm as he was badly stuck,He ended up taking all 50 that were there and said nothing.

It's a harsh reality that very few lads/lassies have any respect for anything that is got for free. It's one thing borrowing a trailer, but those bales cost you money to make.

Suckler

royalmeath wrote: »

Isnt the farming community great how when our fellow farmers are stuck for fodder we are perfectly willing to rip them off. Their is no way any silage is worth the colour of 40 euro

Supply and Demand! as TippMan puts it -

Tipp Man wrote: »

Fodder is a market the same as any other market, supply low, demand high then prices will be high.

I bought 20 bales of a lad we know well after christmas, he told us go up take a few test bales out to make sure we were happy with them, mighty bales took 20 and were back for more. Mighty stuff for 15 a bale but I know he sold more at the 25-30 mark to anyone he didn't know.

Bought a few last year off a different guy and every one of them were dumped back, they were riddled with mould.

bob charles

Muckit wrote: »

It's a harsh reality that very few lads/lassies have any respect for anything that is got for free. It's one thing borrowing a trailer, but those bales cost you money to make.

erra will you go away, I taught that back pocket of yours was bulging with 50's

Muckit

bob charles wrote: »

erra will you go away, I taught that back pocket of yours was bulging with 50's

Never was a lad as sorry to come on here using such a turn of phrase! :rolleyes:
but it's very visual and I'd say the message I was trying to get across from that tread has well and truly sung in with a lot of lads I ain't no tax dodger!!:p

restive

At what price point are you simply better off with meal?

1chippy

I ain't no tax dodger!!:p[/QUOTE]

And why not?