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Sole Trader - Further Learning Expenses

  • 24-03-2013 8:25pm
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I've been working as a sole trader for the last 6 months. Its been ok. I've done a turn over off about €45k.

    It was meant to be temporary but I see opportunities. In order to capitalise on these I'd like to do a business course in DIT.

    I've spoken to my accountant. He is some what vague. The course would be related to the business. Is the full amount of the course then a deductible? My accountant says yes if it is on a government approved list of courses (it is).

    So if my turnover for the year expected to by say €80k and the course is €18k does that mean that I would be taxed on the €62k? I have other expenses but I am trying to keep this simple for me.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Citizenpain


    How are you getting 68?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    How are you getting 68?

    Sorry that was a typo. Should have been €62k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Citizenpain


    As long as the course fees are wholly and exclusively paid for the purposes of the trade or profession they they should be allowable - is 18k for one year?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    €18k over two years.

    I've met with DIT who are providing the MBA. They recommend it for people looking to start/grow a business. I've started a business (reluctantly) but now I want to grow it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Citizenpain


    €9k per year would be allowable then


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I think DIT look for the €18k up front as the preferred option of payment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Citizenpain


    propbably need to treat 1/2 as a prepayment in your accounts and spread the deduction over two years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    DIT may prefer the 18K upfront, but the last few years like everyone else colleges have become more "flexible" in hammering out payment schedules i would put some pressure on them to either allow you to pay by semester or by year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    not sure about sole-traders but isn't there a limit on college course fees that can be deducted (I think I read somewhere that its €5K and must be from an approved list of courses)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I have close to €18k cash in the bank (excluding vat) to pay the tax bill so my thinking was to pay for it in full and completely minimize my tax bill. With other expenses this year I'd be close to making a loss as a result


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Corkbah wrote: »
    not sure about sole-traders but isn't there a limit on college course fees that can be deducted (I think I read somewhere that its €5K and must be from an approved list of courses)

    I think thats for paye people as a tax credit


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