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Driver of the race: Round 2 - Malaysian Grand Prix

  • 24-03-2013 9:49am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭


    Seems like the battle at the front was very exciting with a lot of controversy with the drivers from both Red Bull and Mercedes having good scraps with their teammates at the front so the post race should be quite tense in both teams!

    Driver of the day 80 votes

    Sebastian Vettel
    0%
    Mark Webber
    11%
    De HipsterBeekayEvilMonkeyGrim.luderiDaveBullseye1v3ttelfreestyla 9 votes
    Fernando Alonso
    51%
    Brian CivilEngZaphendplateKillerShamrockconzyRoonboxFrank BullittPaddy@CIRLCharlie-Bravoh3000ScumLordGhost TrainMyrddincherryghostadamstown1InfoanonRayM[Deleted User]mrsoundieooPabsoo 41 votes
    Felipe Massa
    2%
    KevskiSparks43 2 votes
    Jenson Button
    3%
    rayfitzharriscounterlockhon pa 3 votes
    Sergio Perez
    2%
    Slutmonkey57bthedollar01 2 votes
    Kimi Raikkonen
    0%
    Romain Grosjean
    0%
    Nico Rosberg
    1%
    T-Bird 1 vote
    Lewis Hamilton
    16%
    jhegartyv10NobodyImportantDravokivichT-MaxxTerrontressvincenzolorenzo[Deleted User]AnyoneerrlloydTzardinelolieEvanCornwallis 13 votes
    Nico Hulkenberg
    2%
    ScrubsfanChrisSheeps 2 votes
    Esteban Gutierrez
    1%
    1jcdub 1 vote
    Paul di Resta
    0%
    Adrian Sutil
    0%
    Pastor Maldonado
    0%
    Valtteri Bottas
    0%
    Jean-Eric Vergne
    0%
    Daniel Ricciardo
    0%
    Charles Pic
    0%
    Giedo van der Garde
    0%
    Jules Bianchi
    0%
    Max Chilton
    7%
    Andrew76Cookie_MonsterGlico Manlavine7Rascasseyoureadthat 6 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Fernando Alonso
    Webber for not beating the head of Vettel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Fernando Alonso
    Webber for me, nice to see him do well for a change...lord knows he deserves a rub of the green


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Fernando Alonso
    Webber for sure, great start for once and made the most of it. Deserved to win but that's another story.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Fernando Alonso
    Webber for having the balls to let his feeling be known to the whole wide world.

    And for putting it right to Vettel at the end of the race in the press room and also on the podium when being interviewed.


    Anyone think that Hamilton is the "golden boy" and now being favoured by Ross Braun and Mercedes over Rosberg??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Sergio Perez
    Button for driving, he kept his Mclaren in touch with the leaders pace, and fought hard to keep track position wherever he could.

    Webber for speaking out about Vettel and Marko.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    Max Chilton
    None of the top 4 due to the shenanigans. Bianchi for being the the class of the back markers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Felipe Massa
    I went for teflonso

    Always makes me happy when he goes out of the race:pac:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Max Chilton
    Jules Bianchi for a second race ahead of the Caterhams and his team mate. Seems to be making a name for himself, hopefully a star of the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Nico Hulkenberg
    I voted Lewis for getting a podium, but it was probably team orders that got him that so I'm going to change my vote to Nico Rosberg or Webber.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Lewis Hamilton
    Voted rosberg. I feel he really could of challenged further up if allowed pass lewis, but held back kept in line with the team.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    Voted rosberg. I feel he really could of challenged further up if allowed pass lewis, but held back kept in line with the team.

    Not sure why they held him back. They would have had a podium either way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Lewis Hamilton
    Not sure why they held him back. They would have had a podium either way

    I have no doubt it was part of Hamiltons contract that he would be the lead driver in that team and get certain decisions.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone wrote: »
    I have no doubt it was part of Hamiltons contract that he would be the lead driver in that team and get certain decisions.
    I'd be interested to see the wording. If there had been any danger from behind or McLaren hadn't messed up on Button they likely would've let Rosberg go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Fernando Alonso
    Not sure why they held him back. They would have had a podium either way

    What advantage would there be team wise, in letting one ahead of the other? They were never gonna catch the Red Bulls, they had a comfortable lead ahead of those behind them...the sensible, logical thing to do was instruct them to maintain position.

    I think the notion of Lewis getting preferential treatment is looking too much into it, & I'd say throughout the season we'll see examples of Rosberg getting similar benefits from Brawns approach to harvesting points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Mark Webber
    Vettel for a terrific well executed over taking manoeuver late on to win the race :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Max_Charger


    Fernando Alonso
    Not sure why they held him back. They would have had a podium either way

    Outside the possible Lewis contract clause (which I doubt he has one), in the last 22 races, it's only the 11th time both Merc drivers have crossed the finishing line and they have never before gotten more then 27 points from 1 race weekend. My guess it was Brawn being overly cautious, probably thought the second Nico passed the 4 wheels would simultaneously fall off the car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Fernando Alonso
    My guess it was Brawn being overly cautious, probably thought the second Nico passed the 4 wheels would simultaneously fall off the car.

    Possibly. Though I'm certain that if Rosberg had the possibility of catching up to the Red Bulls then Hamilton would have been told to move over. But because the RB's were beyong catching, there was literally no point in rocking the boat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Anyone wrote: »
    I have no doubt it was part of Hamiltons contract that he would be the lead driver in that team and get certain decisions.

    I disagree. Both Hamilton and Rosberg have equal status IMO.

    Should the reverse of what happened at the Malaysian GP happen again this season and Hamilton is behind Rosberg and going quicker than Rosberg and both drivers are told to hold positions, I for one won't be saying Rosberg has No. 1 status at Mercedes.

    I also don't think what happened with Mercedes at the Malaysian GP will occur again this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Sergio Perez
    Nothing confusing about . the Mercedes orders at all.

    Either Lewis has contractual #1 status, or someone in Mercedes decided the pr boost from having their new signing on the podium in his second race.

    I'm glad it backfired on them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    Anyone wrote: »
    I have no doubt it was part of Hamiltons contract that he would be the lead driver in that team and get certain decisions.

    Lewis quote from the Guardian

    "We don't have a one and two at Mercedes. I have always said, from the moment I was speaking to the team, that I wanted equality [with Rosberg].
    "They didn't offer me to be favoured but I just wanted to make the point that I am not a driver that comes and requests that like a lot of other drivers do.
    "You have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror [and say] you won fair and square. In Malaysia I don't feel like I won my spot fair and square.
    EnterNow wrote: »
    What advantage would there be team wise, in letting one ahead of the other? They were never gonna catch the Red Bulls, they had a comfortable lead ahead of those behind them...the sensible, logical thing to do was instruct them to maintain position.

    It would have let Nico loose to see what he could do, if he was unable to get near MW after a few laps then they still would have been 3rd and 4th.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    I think most teams have a policy of no inter-team battling after the last stops. Saves fuel, engine, and a lot of points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Max Chilton
    Rosberg would have caught Webber IMO, he was miles faster than him and Hamilton in the laps where he was catching them.

    Bianchi for me, everything else was average at best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Fernando Alonso
    It would have let Nico loose to see what he could do, if he was unable to get near MW after a few laps then they still would have been 3rd and 4th.

    The RB's were way ahead, and if Rosberg could have caught them, its still a case of Brawn not wanting Rosberg to bin the car in the closing stages of the race. I'm happy enough to see it that Brawn concluded third & fourth were good enough for the team on the day & didn't want to risk throwing away a haul of points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    Lewis Hamilton
    Went for rosberg.
    After the first stint i felt he had the raw pace to challenge for the win.
    Webber was rattled after vettel passed him so brawn should have let him loose the see what he could do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    Mark Webber
    Outside the possible Lewis contract clause (which I doubt he has one), in the last 22 races, it's only the 11th time both Merc drivers have crossed the finishing line and they have never before gotten more then 27 points from 1 race weekend.

    but anyway they could let them switch places safely on a straight, once Rosberg was significantly faster!
    My guess it was Brawn being overly cautious, probably thought the second Nico passed the 4 wheels would simultaneously fall off the car.

    Well.. yeah.. have to understand the old man :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    Mark Webber
    Vettel for me because he spiced up the show :cool: being pure racer.. respect.

    What comes to breaking the pre-race contract, that sucks no doubt so Vettle owns a win to Mark
    BUT I still vote for such drivers who show more of their personality and feelings exactly like Kimi and Vettel do as long as they race the hell out of their cars. I think team orders + present tech and tires rules are making cars too sensitive toys (that's why more and more women are joining the sport? :rolleyes:).

    Remove team orders and bolt on strengthen spoilers, side pods and tires sidewalls.. and battle on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭NobodyImportant


    Lewis Hamilton
    Vettel = Toe-rag. Broke pre-race agreement, team orders and overtook Mark when he had his engine turned down.

    Voted for Rosberg, he drove a good race.

    Nobody voted for Max "The Wallet" Chilton?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Fernando Alonso
    freestyla wrote: »
    Vettel for me because he spiced up the show :cool: being pure racer.. respect.

    What comes to breaking the pre-race contract, that sucks no doubt so Vettle owns a win to Mark
    BUT I still vote for such drivers who show more of their personality and feelings exactly like Kimi and Vettel do as long as they race the hell out of their cars. I think team orders + present tech and tires rules are making cars too sensitive toys (that's why more and more women are joining the sport? :rolleyes:).

    Remove team orders and bolt on strengthen spoilers, side pods and tires sidewalls.. and battle on!

    The highlighted part what does that mean?? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    Mark Webber
    freestyla wrote: »
    ....

    I think team orders + present tech and tires rules are making cars too sensitive toys (that's why more and more women are joining the sport? :rolleyes:).
    Autosport wrote: »
    The highlighted part what does that mean?? :confused:

    Well women have more sensitive hands so they can feel tires degradation and blistering better than man ? hope this makes sense..

    I remember Schumi said a year ago that "new tires are like eggs"


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    Vettel = Toe-rag. Broke pre-race agreement, team orders and overtook Mark when he had his engine turned down.

    Voted for Rosberg, he drove a good race.

    Nobody voted for Max "The Wallet" Chilton?


    Red Bull maintain they never favoured Sebastian Vettel in Sepang despite confirming that the German had more horsepower than his team-mate in the closing stages.
    The Red Bull saga has dominated headlines for the past week ever since Vettel disobeyed orders to hold station behind Mark Webber in last Sunday's Malaysian GP.
    But instead of doing just that, the German stormed by with ten laps remaining, stealing the grand prix victory from the Australian.
    However, it appears it was never going to be a fair fight as Red Bull had told Webber to cut his engine more than Vettel's.
    "After speaking with Christian, it seems Mark was told to turn down the wick on his engine, but the team didn't tell Sebastian to do the same thing," Bernie Ecclestone told the The Mail on Sunday.
    Red Bull have confirmed the F1 supremo's claims.


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