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An inexpensive way to fix pictures to insulated plasterboard?

  • 23-03-2013 5:04pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭


    During the summer I fitted 50mm insulated plasterboard around the house. To fix the big things (Curtains, rads etc) I used large rawlplugs and screws that went through the board into the concrete.

    I'm just now getting around to hanging pictures. The 80mm screws mentioned above are pretty costly and take a bit of drilling. Smaller rawlplugs just twist in the insulation. I had a look at another option in woodies which were about €1 each, they were on the counter as a new product. We're hanging around 20 pictures so I would rather avoid this cost if possible.

    Is there another option? The pictures are light so I had considered just drilling a screw directly into the plasterboard - would that last?

    Edit: By the way, the plaster board is the best investment I have made in this house. The open fire alone would keep the house warm whereas before, as soon as the heat went off the house would get cold.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    engrish? wrote: »
    During the summer I fitted 50mm insulated plasterboard around the house. To fix the big things (Curtains, rads etc) I used large rawlplugs and screws that went through the board into the concrete.
    I'm just now getting around to hanging pictures. The 80mm screws mentioned above are pretty costly and take a bit of drilling. Smaller rawlplugs just twist in the insulation. I had a look at another option in woodies which were about €1 each, they were on the counter as a new product. We're hanging around 20 pictures so I would rather avoid this cost if possible.

    Is there another option? The pictures are light so I had considered just drilling a screw directly into the plasterboard - would that last?

    Edit: By the way, the plaster board is the best investment I have made in this house. The open fire alone would keep the house warm whereas before, as soon as the heat went off the house would get cold.


    They are called "frame fixers".

    65 cents each in a builders providers isnt exactly what Id call..."costly".;):)


    You can also buy brass picture grips...they simply tap into the surface plaster/plasterboard with a hammer and they grip into the wall.

    You hang the picture on it.

    Thats is...its that simple.:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    You can also drill a 5mm hole and fit "plasterboard plugs" into the insulated slab.

    These plugs knot up on themselves as you screw into them.This creates a tight/secure fitting

    They will easily hold a lightweight picture/picture frame up on the insulated slab wall.


    I have a large Ikea clock fitted onto an insulated slabbed wall in this manner.

    Works a treat.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    These are grand for pictures.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6SfHv7poezXHod2s3KD-6S5QumCbOkRo3ziD0AXFg0mVcrgH0rw

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQr0l7CaWFCkXHJkE6KKdlsFvLa7TVA3nc04J5MxPGwSEbXB8vY


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    I also have fish tank equipment...(Digital CO2/PH controller) mounted to the insulated slab wall with the plasterboard plugs.

    Again no issues in 2 year now at this stage.:)


    I found some of the metal worms to be problematic...as in the screws would not allways screw in properly/fully and they ended up twisting around on themselves and making shyte of the slab/plaster.



    A pack of 25 grey plasterboard plugs and screws can be had in a builders providers for around 4 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭slpower01


    These are grand for pictures.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6SfHv7poezXHod2s3KD-6S5QumCbOkRo3ziD0AXFg0mVcrgH0rw

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQr0l7CaWFCkXHJkE6KKdlsFvLa7TVA3nc04J5MxPGwSEbXB8vY

    Ive never found these to be to great on insulated plasterboard, despite being very good on a standard plasterboard sheet. They tend to just spin widening the hole and thus making it pretty difficult to put any alternative fixing in without having to fill and sand prior.

    I remember my dad using this .... http://www.takker.com/
    I wouldn't recommend anything too heavy but it seems to work well for pictures with minimal wall damage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    These are grand for pictures.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6SfHv7poezXHod2s3KD-6S5QumCbOkRo3ziD0AXFg0mVcrgH0rw

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQr0l7CaWFCkXHJkE6KKdlsFvLa7TVA3nc04J5MxPGwSEbXB8vY
    They should be illegal. They are crap, and they destroy plasterboard.

    @OP. 20 light pictures? Just get the brass picture hooks. They tap in to the plasterboard (3 pins usually) and will be up to the job. Plus, if you ever get fed up looking at them and want them down, the pin holes are repaired easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭diarmuid05


    One of my mates used a version of these all over his new house with great success



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    A tip with small wall plugs is to dab a bit of PVA adhesive on them as you push them into the hole.
    If the recommended hole is 8mm, use a 7mm bit, tap in with a hammer - tap- not bash!
    Allow this to dry then use as normal. Stops the spinning in the hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    for light to medium pictures all you need is some of those little plastic hooks with the three small pins in them, tap gently into the plaster. I have them all over the place and never had one fail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭sgarvan


    These things are very good. No mess, no weaking of plasterboard (like above screw in's) and cheap enough.

    790164.jpg


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43fEneu2QfA


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    sgarvan wrote: »
    These things are very good. No mess, no weaking of plasterboard (like above screw in's) and cheap enough.

    790164.jpg


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43fEneu2QfA
    Better than the butcher fittings for sure, but still overkill for small pictures with very little weight.

    Problem sorted....... http://www.ebay.ie/itm/BLACKSPUR-30PC-ASSORTED-PICTURE-HOOK-SET-/290562729823


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    dodzy wrote: »


    1 euro 49 cents in any Dealz shop
    Or 2 euro in any Eurogiant shop.
    And 2 euro in Homestore & More.


    Cheaper than ebay aswell.:p:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭engrish?


    paddy147 wrote: »
    1 euro 49 cents in any Dealz shop
    Or 2 euro in any Eurogiant shop.
    And 2 euro in Homestore & More.


    Cheaper than ebay aswell.:p:D

    These worked great - put them up last night.

    Thanks for all the suggestions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Oh how much better off we'd all be if they built our houses properly in the first place instead of using all this bloody plasterboard. It's such a pain for anyone looking to hang something with any weight to it at all. :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Oh how much better off we'd all be if they built our houses properly in the first place instead of using all this bloody plasterboard. It's such a pain for anyone looking to hang something with any weight to it at all. :mad:


    Eh no its not.

    You simply pick the right rawl plug/fiting for the job in hand.

    Simples.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Eh no its not.

    You simply pick the right rawl plug/fiting for the job in hand.

    Simples.:)

    ah sometimes a poor plug selection can lead to heartache (and there can be a confusing array of plugs to choose from). I've given up trying those feckin plugs with the 'wings' on the back that apparently flip up against the plaster once inserted...I have never managed to get them working and instead they just acted like a feckin boring machine on my wall!

    In the end I found a nylon threaded plug that goes in after a pilot holt, the plug is sent in (slowly) by a drill using a special flat head attachment. Getting them out will be easy but the hole will be fairly big.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭cheif kaiser


    Have tried numerous wallplugs for this job, the metal ones just chew up the plasterboard and some of the plastic ones eventually fall out. The only ones I have ever found to be decent enough are these because they actually fan out behind the plasterboard and can't fall out.

    plasterboard-plug.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭genuine leather


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Oh how much better off we'd all be if they built our houses properly in the first place instead of using all this bloody plasterboard. It's such a pain for anyone looking to hang something with any weight to it at all. :mad:

    I have hung many heavy painting/mirrors etc and a little trick i use when faced with plasterboard over block, is to first drill and fit whats called an express nail(hollow tube of metal,extremely strong fitting, all hardwares carry them)
    8/10mm x 90 depending on how heavy the piece you are fitting. once thats drilled and hammered flush with the board a rawl plug can be fitted in the hole, i tend to go for the plugs you can cut to length so as to have it go further into the express nail. heavy screw drilled in, very strong support.
    Hope this helps nc6000
    GL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭paddylonglegs


    sgarvan wrote: »
    These things are very good. No mess, no weaking of plasterboard (like above screw in's) and cheap enough.

    790164.jpg


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43fEneu2QfA

    Yes agree. These are excellent for heavy items on plasterboard. We use them in the signage industry and work great. Best thing is that they only require a small pilot hole, then you can tap them home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    sgarvan wrote: »
    These things are very good. No mess, no weaking of plasterboard (like above screw in's) and cheap enough.

    790164.jpg


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43fEneu2QfA
    Yes agree. These are excellent for heavy items on plasterboard. We use them in the signage industry and work great. Best thing is that they only require a small pilot hole, then you can tap them home.

    These things are great. I've had a bag of them that I've used for years. Really simple to use, all you need is a hammer and a screwdriver.
    I’ve actually ran out of them and a search for where to buy them has brought me to this thread. Anybody know where I could get them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    These things are great. I've had a bag of them that I've used for years. Really simple to use, all you need is a hammer and a screwdriver.
    I’ve actually ran out of them and a search for where to buy them has brought me to this thread. Anybody know where I could get them?

    Profast have a load of them. I seen them in there last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    gutteruu wrote: »
    Profast have a load of them. I seen them in there last week.

    Thanks for that. I managed to pick some up this morning in Goodwins in Lucan this morning. Although, I work right around the corner from Profast, so that's a little annoying! :)


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