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Suggestion: thread with directory for cycling rules if road legislation

  • 23-03-2013 4:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭


    Just a suggestion.

    From looking at the rules of the road book both cyclists and drivers would think that cyclists should always stay left.

    From following this forum I've got a lot clearer about the actual Rules of the road for cyclists...

    ...But i wouldn't have much hope of actually being able to find the relevant sections of law that prescribe the different rules, other than maybe the recent changes brought in in October last as discussed on the forum at thet time.

    Is it realistic that a thread could be made with links to relevant SIs so that it could be used as a resource for accessing the law to prove to others that, for example, cyclists can cycle in the middle of the Lane and should only take the left when it is safe to be overtaken etc.?

    Just a suggestion.

    What do others think? Is there anyone out there who knows a lot of SIs related to cycling?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    ezra_pound wrote: »
    Just a suggestion.

    From looking at the rules of the road book both cyclists and drivers would think that cyclists should always stay left.

    From following this forum I've got a lot clearer about the actual Rules of the road for cyclists...

    ...But i wouldn't have much hope of actually being able to find the relevant sections of law that prescribe the different rules, other than maybe the recent changes brought in in October last as discussed on the forum at thet time.

    Is it realistic that a thread could be made with links to relevant SIs so that it could be used as a resource for accessing the law to prove to others that, for example, cyclists can cycle in the middle of the Lane and should only take the left when it is safe to be overtaken etc.?

    Just a suggestion.

    What do others think? Is there anyone out there who knows a lot of SIs related to cycling?

    Does anyone have any opinion on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    ezra_pound wrote: »
    Does anyone have any opinion on this?

    Start posting links here I guess!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound



    Start posting links here I guess!

    OK here goes!

    Cyclists are allowed to hold onto other unmanned bikes but not other vehicles while cycling:

    Road traffic act 1961 S. 100

    Cyclists holding on to other vehicles.

    100.—(1) A person on a bicycle or a tricycle in a public place shall not hold on to any other vehicle (other than a pedal bicycle which no person is driving) which is in motion or hold on to any person or thing on, in or attached to any such vehicle.

    (2) A person who contravenes subsection (1) of this section shall be guilty of an offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    You're not aloud to cycler while intoxicated and can receive a hefty fine for so doing:

    Road Traffic Act 2010


    Prohibition on driving animal-drawn vehicle or pedal cycle while under influence of intoxicant.

    6.— (1) A person shall not, in a public place—

    (a) drive or attempt to drive, or be in charge of, an animal-drawn vehicle, or

    (b) drive or attempt to drive a pedal cycle,

    while he or she is under the influence of an intoxicant to such an extent as to be incapable of having proper control of the vehicle or cycle.

    (2) A person who contravenes subsection (1) commits an offence and—

    (a) if the offence relates to an animal-drawn vehicle, he or she is liable on summary conviction—

    (i) in the case of a first offence, to a fine not exceeding €3,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 1 month or to both, and

    (ii) in the case of a second or subsequent offence, to a fine not exceeding €5,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to both,

    or

    (b) if the offence relates to a pedal cycle, he or she is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding €2,000.

    (3) A person liable to be charged with an offence under this section shall not, by reference to the same occurrence, be liable to be charged under section 12 of the Licensing Act 1872 with the offence of being drunk while in charge, on a highway or other public place, of a carriage.

    (4) Where a member of the Garda Síochána is of opinion that a person is committing or has committed an offence under this section, he or she may arrest the person without warrant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Crow92


    Strange there's a part of legislation that says you can cycle with another bike in hand, not the easiest of things to do through the city.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Is there a law against cycling while holding a phone? (as there is for driving)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭rp


    This page gives some handy links:
    http://273k.net/cycling/cyclinglegislation.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Doctor Bob


    Is there a law against cycling while holding a phone? (as there is for driving)

    No specific law, but I understand that mobile phone use on a bike could still be prosecuted as driving without reasonable consideration, careless driving or dangerous driving.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/act/pub/0028/sec0004.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    rp wrote: »
    This page gives some handy links:
    http://273k.net/cycling/cyclinglegislation.html

    Brilliant. Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    I thought 'stay left' for cyclists was the same as 'stay left' for motor vehicles, as in stay on the left hand side of the road. The right hand side being for oncoming vehicles going in the other direction. Am I missing something here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    check_six wrote: »
    I thought 'stay left' for cyclists was the same as 'stay left' for motor vehicles, as in stay on the left hand side of the road. The right hand side being for oncoming vehicles going in the other direction. Am I missing something here?

    The rules booklet directs cyclists to 'keep to the left' as a general rule. To me this sounds like the direction to cars to'keep as near to the left as is safe to do so' when being overtaken. I think that it does refer to staying left in towards the kerb.

    Regardless of what it intends to mean I believe that motorists interpret this as meaning that cycliats should stay in near the kerb.

    If they wanted to clearly say to stay on left side of the road surely they should just say that in so many words?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭rp


    In this booklet, also from the RSA, they say "Ride well clear of the kerb."

    Here, the RSA state "Riding clear of the kerb will make you more visible to drivers, and help prevent unsafe overtaking".

    In this video they state "Cyclists should ride on the left-hand side of the road", as if other vehicles were under no such restriction.


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