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It sounded better when Hendrix played through it

  • 23-03-2013 3:12pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭


    Hey just taught I put this thread up for a bit of fun as well as feedback on gear. Recently I've put up a few threads asking about the minefield that is gear more specifically amps. I was unhappy with my marshall it was a solid state one, so I recently played a marshall tube amp and yeah while it did sound better still it didn't really do much for me. And so to my point have you had a similiar experience with gear, where you taught you were a marshall fan until you played through a vox. Name what gear be it guitar/amps/pedals that surprised you for better or worse, big brands against more obscure gems and the like, cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Chris 90 wrote: »
    I was unhappy with my marshall it was a solid state one, so I recently played a marshall tube amp and yeah while it did sound better still it didn't really do much for me.

    Erm, what Marshall were you playing through? They're not all equal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    Fair question,it was a DSL401. I probably should have been a bit more specific in the sense, what pieces of gear where people surprised by either hearing negative things about it or simply not knowing its existence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Chris 90 wrote: »
    Fair question,it was a DSL401. I probably should have been a bit more specific in the sense, what pieces of gear where people surprised by either hearing negative things about it or simply not knowing its existence.

    Terrible amp, has a poor reputation online too, play a superbass or a jcm800, then you'll hear the real Marshall tone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    to be honest better than I'm use to and that's nothing to write home, there was a terrible noisy signal coming off it. never heard of a superbass, must check it out. There seems to be no middle ground with marshall, either terrible or brilliant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    I have a hankering for a DSL 100 ATM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    Any thoughts on kay or danelectro guitars, looking at ebay and they look pretty good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Chris 90 wrote: »
    Any thoughts on kay or danelectro guitars, looking at ebay and they look pretty good.

    Haven't played any danelectro guitars in a long while, they're certainly different and have pretty unique sound. I'd want to play it before I bought it personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    What did you find different about them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Chris 90 wrote: »
    to be honest better than I'm use to and that's nothing to write home, there was a terrible noisy signal coming off it. never heard of a superbass, must check it out. There seems to be no middle ground with marshall, either terrible or brilliant

    That could've just been a dodgy tube or wiring. There's some decent modern Marshalls, the DSL 100s, Vintage Modern's, JVMs. I also though the JCM900 4100 wasn't too bad either. Nothing like the older Marshalls though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭wild turkey


    I stopped changing amps every few months & now work with a clean amp & pedals to get my tone , which is Marshall based btw.
    Its a way cheaper option for me as I build the pedals I want & can sound as good as any Marshall I've tried
    Sometimes a good boost or overdrive in front of the drive channel can get you what you want

    Before you start spending a fortune on amps try something like a bad monkey in front of it,theyre €30 on adverts


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    I have a big muff pedal which I'm happy with,yeah amps are a bit of a minefield, I'm getting a bugera v5. Would love a orange tiny terror but it's too out of my price range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭TroutMask


    I've a SuperLead 100W model '1959' JMP Marshall and while I always liked it, it only truly came to life after I modded it. So, I'd say many vintage Marshalls have the potential to be great amps - after a bit of tech'ing or modification.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    Erm, what Marshall were you playing through? They're not all equal.

    THIS.

    Also, most tube amps have a sweet spot. Unfortunately, with a 50 or 100W tube amp, this will be as loud as hell. I mean sure, a JCM800 or silver jubilee will sound good at home, but to really get her singing you need to crank the bejesus out of it.

    One a related note, I once had the distinct pleasure of playing through a Marshall Plexi head. I can honestly say it is without a shadow of a doubt the best thing I have ever heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    TroutMask wrote: »
    I've a SuperLead 100W model '1959' JMP Marshall and while I always liked it, it only truly came to life after I modded it. So, I'd say many vintage Marshalls have the potential to be great amps - after a bit of tech'ing or modification.

    How many amps do you own and would you modifiy them all or does it depend on the amp your working with? I'm a bit of novice at all this, really keen to find out as much information, cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    THIS.

    Also, most tube amps have a sweet spot. Unfortunately, with a 50 or 100W tube amp, this will be as loud as hell. I mean sure, a JCM800 or silver jubilee will sound good at home, but to really get her singing you need to crank the bejesus out of it.

    One a related note, I once had the distinct pleasure of playing through a Marshall Plexi head. I can honestly say it is without a shadow of a doubt the best thing I have ever heard.

    this would be my main deal I guess, I don't need a 50 or 100 watt amp. I'm only interested in lower wattage amps at the moment.


    Also I should note, I wasn't having a go at marshall in my original post, just based it on my limited experience was all. What I should have originally posted was,what are the more obscure or less known gems people have in their rigs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭TroutMask


    Chris 90 wrote: »
    How many amps do you own and would you modifiy them all or does it depend on the amp your working with? I'm a bit of novice at all this, really keen to find out as much information, cheers.

    I've had dozens but have 2 now. I only modify when there's a need to. I have my eye on a Swart Space Tone and would not modify that amp. Other amps are either not worth modding or are too difficult to mod. The other one I have is a Vox AC 30 and I've modded that a number of times - it needed it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭wild turkey


    If it were me Id buy this & with what youve got left over get a reverb pedal & some type od / dist, try joyo etc


    http://www.adverts.ie/guitar-amps/vht-1x12-jensen-loaded-cabinet/2826090


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    That's just a cab though, not an amp - I imagine it's the Special you're referring to though, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    Hey guys I don't know if this thread is working, to be honest I should have been clearer in the original post/title I just wanted to see what piece of gear people really treasure in their rig.I made a flippant remark about Marshall, which I shouldn't have done.I don't want advice on what amps I should be buying I've actually taken care of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Fair enough.

    The gear that I really swear by is my stash of Dunlop Jazz III picks. They're great - perfect rigidity, nicely pointed, red so they're easy to find. I always have a load of them lying around my house.

    I also think it's really worthwhile investing in a good tuner. The Polytune I use is convenient above all and also generally accurate, although some other models on the market are arguably better from what I've read.

    Other than that I love my G&Ls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    That's really interesting cause when i'm in a music shop,me personally, I take a few without really noticing the gauge or brand, must have a look for them. Ah the tuner maybe not the most exciting piece of gear but really essential, tuning in a live situation can be so unnerving, you don't want it failing on you. I was looking at a korg pitchblack myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭wild turkey


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    That's just a cab though, not an amp - I imagine it's the Special you're referring to though, right?
    Silly me !
    GHarison had the special 6 up as well & tagged the wrong one
    so special 6 instead of cab

    As far as good gear on a budget, I presume your trying to do this as cheap as possible

    Joyo pedals are great for the money I've had 6 of their peals & all excellent
    Try WTF accessories online shop

    Squier classic vibes are great guitars for the money, I would put my cv up against my USA anyday. Really !
    Les paul wise, Ive had 2 Vintage brand V100s & for the money their really good
    Acoustic, Try Recording King

    Ampwise,
    I have the Bugera V22 which is as good as any amp in the €500-€700 bracket imo,
    The VHT special 6 will be my next purchase as Im tired of hauling the Bugera around .They get shining reviews from all corners


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Chris 90


    I'm pretty good on gear getting a v5 bugera very soon it's very reasonably priced and also love the sound of it. As far as pedals go happy with the big muff, and the only other pedals I want is delay, tremolo, chorus and tuner, all of which danelectro and ehx do well and again good prices. As far as guitars go,I got a squier jagmaster which is doing the job for the moment. But I'm saving up to get a second hand electric and acoustic of ebay maybe a kay or a silvertone, not interested in the sister brands of the larger companies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    Fair enough.

    The gear that I really swear by is my stash of Dunlop Jazz III picks. They're great - perfect rigidity, nicely pointed, red so they're easy to find. I always have a load of them lying around my house.

    I also think it's really worthwhile investing in a good tuner. The Polytune I use is convenient above all and also generally accurate, although some other models on the market are arguably better from what I've read.

    Other than that I love my G&Ls.

    Ah man it's all about Jazz II's!:D

    Just counted my plectrums that i could see on my desk, 16 Jazz III's, and 30 Jazz II's...I buy in bulk :D


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