HIH's Subaru/IS200 megathread

Hows it hanging

which is better at diffin, fuel consumption etc?

bazz26

The IS and Altezza were the same car but had some substantial differences underneath, visually they were nearly identical except for badges and trim. The IS was sold in Europe/US and came in the form of the IS200 and IS300. The IS200 having a 2.0 litre straight six VVTi engine and the IS300 having a 3.0 litre straight six VVTi engine, all versions were rear wheel drive.

The Altezza was sold in Japan only as the Lexus brand was not sold in Japan until later, it came with the same engines as the IS but was also available with a Yamaha Beams developed 2.0 litre 4 cylinder engine producing 210bhp.

The IS200 is well known for not being very powerful or being that fuel efficient, the rare IS300 even less so. The Yamaha Beams Altezza would not be great on fuel either but at least it was quicker than the other versions.

corkgsxr

but also known for head gaskets too.


saying that id still get the yam engine

the culture of deference

Sorry to hijack, I have a cousin just about to sell his Altezza if you are interested.

ianobrien

I hope you're not planning on going "diffin" on the public road. We have enough trouble caused by idiots "diffin" on the public road and rallying getting blamed. I've spent hours trying to fix the damage caused to rallying by these idiots......

As for using the Altezza/IS for drifting competitions (as opposed to just doing "rings" - any idsiot can do that!), forget it. I'm informed that the rear subframe can flex under sideways load, meaning shocking feedback and difficulty in controlling the drift.

Cee-Jay-Cee

The altezza is the one to go for if all you want is something to do donuts in but you can be sure that every altezza in the land has had the ****e diffed out if it at this stage. There are very few, if any, decent ones left, they're all ropey loose dogs that have been abused since they were imported. Unless your getting one for peanuts then your buying trouble.

Hows it hanging

impreza's are 4wd so are they not pretty much impossible to diff?

Drummerboy08

Google videos of Colin McRae and watch the results to find your answer.

Fuh Q

Yes you can, but its not advisable. The early models would allow the oil to sit to one side as you go round and round causing oil starvation and bearing failure in the engine. I think the later models had a better sump to help prevent this.
Either way its not good for the car.

Hows it hanging

also is the mutsubishi lancer a rwd? and what about the subaru

b318isp

Altezza = RWD
Lancer = FWD, unless evo
Impreza = FWD, unless WRX

Henry Ford III

What is "diffin"?

RootX

Henry Ford III wrote: »

What is "diffin"?

Got to love Urban Dictionary :P

Diffing
When a group of knob heads gather to wreck their cars by spinning around in circles, usually done by joy riders from west belfast and little boys who think twin (tin) cams and old beemers as old as the hills are cool

pa990

RootX wrote: »

Got to love Urban Dictionary :P

Diffing

D|ckheads

langdang

Henry Ford III wrote: »

What is "diffin"?

If in doubt, diff her out laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

dgt

Twin cam/saph cossie is the usual weapon of choice for diffin laaaaaaad

challengemaster

langdang wrote: »

If in doubt, diff her out laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

If the crossroads empty, give 'er plenty! :pac:

langdang

dgt wrote: »

Twin cam/saph cossie is the usual weapon of choice for diffin laaaaaaad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn7kH2TsOpA

dgt

Only a true felter will get this :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr6Gp6pPoco

HandsomeDan

The Lexus IS is the choice of the discerning scanger.

Hows it hanging

i would want to buy in ireland as more trustworthy and safe over sea post charges

166man

Seriously man, you have at least three threads out there all relating to mainly the same idea, Lexii, Subaru's and ''diffin'' whatever that is....

It might be easier to keep it all to the one thread.

A for buying a jacket, try donedeal or adverts maybe.

bazz26

They come with the car....:D

SV

God awful looking yokes.

OP, are you 17? Ya havta be.

Hows it hanging

there lovely

SV

Hows it hanging wrote: »

there lovely

I'm gonna take that as a yes to the 17.

CiniO

Why?
I'm way more than 17, but I do have subaru jacket

Nissan doctor

Diffin'??? Come on, you could teach a monkey how to diff a Lada.

Of your list though, only an Altezza RS200 or an IS200 sport could do rings out of the box as they are the only ones which came from the factory with limited slip diffs.

Jimdagym

CiniO wrote: »

Why?
I'm way more than 17, but I do have subaru jacket

:pac:

AmberAmber

Talk to Brian ...

http://www.orchardmotorsport.com/store/

or

talk to John

http://www.wardmotorsportmerchandise.ie/

georgefalls

Perhaps OP is having a senior moment, and posting twice..?

georgefalls

Perhaps OP is having a senior moment, and posting twice..?

Hows it hanging

for instance in mcrae's time clutch was needed to change gear and to put the car in gear by taking one hand of steering wheel due to manual gearbox, now for instance clutch aint needed and its just a push pull lever right behind steering wheel, means both hands can be left on wheel

colm_mcm

Its not harder anyway.

MEGA THREAD MERGE! You get your own megathread

Senna

Worst megathread ever.

SV

Hows it hanging wrote: »

for instance in mcrae's time clutch was needed to change gear and to put the car in gear by taking one hand of steering wheel due to manual gearbox, now for instance clutch aint needed and its just a push pull lever right behind steering wheel, means both hands can be left on wheel

http://www.rallyschoolireland.ie/

go get all this out of your system before you explode would ya.

CianRyan

Buy a RWD Transit, OP.
A diesel one.

darragh o meara

Hows it hanging wrote: »

for instance in mcrae's time clutch was needed to change gear and to put the car in gear by taking one hand of steering wheel due to manual gearbox, now for instance clutch aint needed and its just a push pull lever right behind steering wheel, means both hands can be left on wheel

I read that wrong initially so here is the amended version:

Rallying is easier now alright with sequential gearboxes, but all of the cars still have a clutch and its used on take off from standing starts. However once the car is actually moving the car does the clutching for you as having to do it manually would negate any time saving achieved by the sequential gearbox and flappy paddle gearshift (The could change gears in fractions of a second) But the flappy paddles are now gone from WRC cars too so its back to the stick.

The reason you can see rally Impreza has more to do with the active centre differential fitted to the rally car which allows the driver to set the bias in the 4wd system. There is a form if adjustable differential in the Impreza RA model but diffing with it turned fully back will damage the system. You could also pull ye 4wd fuse but again you can do damage to the centre diff.

When you've half a million worth of a rallycar you can diff all you like but the standard road imprezas aren't usually known for diffing. Good for a bit of 4 wheel drift alright if you have the right conditions.

corkgsxr

One class thing about a decent power 4wd is a proper full on launch.

Car sits up, all 4 wheels spinning, it sits there for a second like its defying physics then shoots off like a scalded cat

darragh o meara

corkgsxr wrote: »

One class thing about a decent power 4wd is a proper full on launch.

Car sits up, all 4 wheels spinning, it sits there for a second like its defying physics then shoots off like a scalded cat

Yes but its unreal hardship on the clutch and every mechanical part connecting it to the ground..

CianRyan

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Diffin'??? Come on, you could teach a monkey how to diff a Lada.

Of your list though, only an Altezza RS200 or an IS200 sport could do rings out of the box as they are the only ones which came from the factory with limited slip diffs.

I've been informed you don't need an LSD to diff.

Either way, learn to drift!

dgt

CianRyan wrote: »

I've been informed you don't need an LSD to diff.

Either way, learn to drift!

Shur ya don't just break out the wee welder and weld it up lad

Matt Simis

CianRyan wrote: »

I've been informed you don't need an LSD to diff.

Either way, learn to drift!

Eh, well you cant really, you can just get up speed and turn fast and make it spin.. but you cant maintain speed with a 1-tyre-fire:

No LSD IS200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAS93duLDQE

LSD'ed 3 Series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nMeboGLZIo

You will notice that despite the fact he is in an Automatic, he still isnt all over the place in a mess like the IS200.


Also, BMW claim they plan to "crush" the drifting record by drifting in a stock car for 65km.. I think the last record was done in an AMG C-Class Merc:

All M and CSi cars have LSDs obviously.

CianRyan

I was just going by what I was told, so I'll give it to you.