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Broner vs Mayweather 147 lbs

  • 20-03-2013 10:43pm
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    Who would win?

    Now that broner is moving up to 147 it's not inconceivable that they could meet. I'd imagine PPV figures would be astronomical. Though since they're friends it's highly unlikely to happen.

    I honestly don't know, a 2007 Mayweather wins IMO but It's just hard to tell what's left in the tank now at 36. Reckon Broner could knock him out now as he easily has the power for 147.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    If Mayweather can beat Cotto at 154 he still has the tools to whip Boner at 147, Boner is alot easier to hit than Mayweather even though he copies Mayweathers style. Also Boner hasnt beaten an elite fighter yet. He reminds me too much of Naseem Hamed who told everyone he was going to be the greatest of all time til he fought a true hall of famer and got his ass handed to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    At this age Mayweather is a natural welterweight now, and also in superb shape. I think Broner would be at a big disadvantage in terms of size and strength if he moved up from lightweight. While Floyd is no longer as fleet-footed as he was, he still has one of the most remarkable skillsets ever seen in boxing. Against Cotto he showed us that he can still mix it with bigger, stronger and younger men than him; make no mistake, Cotto is one tough bastard and a serious challenge for anyone in the game today. Would you compare him to Gavin Rees? Would you f*ck.

    Talk of a smaller Broner "knocking out" Floyd is silly in my opinion, especially considering Broner at 23 is still easier to hit now than Floyd is in his mid-30s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Also Boner hasnt beaten an elite fighter yet. He reminds me too much of Naseem Hamed who told everyone he was going to be the greatest of all time til he fought a true hall of famer and got his ass handed to him.

    I think the Hamed situation would have been easier to call though; what with his low hands, theatrics, jumping off his base with leaping left hooks and all of that jazz. It must have been obvious to anyone watching those fights (the vast majority against shells) that he was waiting to get found out. Broner, on the other hand, is actually a great boxer but we've yet to see his mettle tested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    FTA69 wrote: »
    I think the Hamed situation would have been easier to call though; what with his low hands, theatrics, jumping off his base with leaping left hooks and all of that jazz. It must have been obvious to anyone watching those fights (the vast majority against shells) that he was waiting to get found out. Broner, on the other hand, is actually a great boxer but we've yet to see his mettle tested.

    Going off topic here but don't agree with you on the fact that everyone saw Hamed being found out when he stepped up in class, Hamed was the big favourite going into the Barrera fight. Biggest disapointment with Hamed for me was that after the Barrera defeat he still spouted sh*te about how "the greats always come back stronger" and he just skulked away like a spoilt child.
    Totally agree with on the Mayweather/Boner match up, Floyd is still the best in the business and from what i've seen Boner is not as good as he thinks he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The comparison between Broner and Hamed is well off. They are completely different. Broner's skill set is far superior. Maybe the hype comparison is comparable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Totally agree with on the Mayweather/Boner match up, Floyd is still the best in the business and from what i've seen Boner is not as good as he thinks he is.

    This.

    Glad to see I'm not the only one not entirely convinced by Broner. Besides not being as good defensively as Floyd, his so-called power is being seriously overrated.

    Don't get me wrong Broner is good, but the Americans are just looking very hard for a new American superstar and have decided Broner is it, before he has actually proven himself.

    Wide UD for Floyd if they met right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    walshb wrote: »
    The comparison between Broner and Hamed is well off. They are completely different. Broner's skill set is far superior. Maybe the hype comparison is comparable.

    My original comment comparing Boner to Hamed actually had nothing to do with their style or skills. The point i probably wasnt clear on is that Boner sounds like Hamed in his boasts and what he is going to do, also before and after fights he is prancing round the year, roaring and shouting and fixing his hair. That part of him reminds me of Hammed. Totally agree with you on fighting style side of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    My original comment comparing Boner to Hamed actually had nothing to do with their style or skills. The point i probably wasnt clear on is that Boner sounds like Hamed in his boasts and what he is going to do, also before and after fights he is prancing round the year, roaring and shouting and fixing his hair. That part of him reminds me of Hammed. Totally agree with you on fighting style side of things.

    Yes, I guessed that, hence why I added in the hype comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭RICHIE26188


    Floyd, Broner is very good but he is yet to be tried and at 147, I dont think he would find it as easy as he has done at lower weights

    I'd love to see Broner vs Cotto first, see how good he really is. Even though he is a fading light Cotto still has more than enough to cause him one or two problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Is this a serious thread? Floyd beats him in a shut out. Broner's footwork is nowhere near good enough to cope with Floyd, even if Floyd does move a lot less now than he once did. Broner's stance is very wide and in the Quintero/PDL fights he looked very rigid when his opponent forced him into adjusting his feet. Even on the front foot he waddles around the ring.

    Broner's qualities lie in his handspeed and accuracy. But I think he's going to be really tested when he faces a guy his own size who either moves a lot, or who knows how to apply pressure. If he's in situation where he can't fight as the bigger man it's going to be very interesting to see how he adjusts.

    But the thread starter's comments just sum up the absurd level of hype there is around him right now, even down to him and Floyd being 'friends'. Haymon and GBP are trying to find a way to continue the Mayweather brand, and as such Broner is being packaged the same way.

    But he's very different to Mayweather in the ring. When I see those comparisons I honestly get the impression that for a lot of people Mayweather is nothing more than the philly shell and a big mouth. A more accurate comparison for Broner would be James Toney. But even Toney had more educated footwork than Broner I reckon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I want to see a wee bit more of Broner before I would call him against PBF. Right now I think Floyd would be just too polished. Broner is 135-140 at this point in his career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    BTW, stylistically Broner is a lot more Floyd than Toney!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    walshb wrote: »
    BTW, stylistically Broner is a lot more Floyd than Toney!

    No he isn't. Watch any Mayweather fights at 130/135/140 and you'll see the massive difference in mobility between Broner and Floyd. Broner's feet planted style, relying on upper body movement for defence is far more like Toney than it is like Floyd. Look at one of Floyd's finest performances from that period of his career (Corrales) and if you're telling me he looks like Broner then you're on crazy pills - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp_XAZsgDME

    Now look at Toney in his fight against a guy with exceptional movement in Roy Jones - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwlfeyYZ7VQ

    That's what Broner's liable to look like against a top fighter who can move if they ever put him in with one. He's too stationary and when he starts fighting guys his own size that's going to be a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd has the better feet. Apart from the better feet I think Broner is more similar to Floyd than he is to Toney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Put it this way: When I watch Broner I never think James Toney. I more think Floyd Mayweather!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭RICHIE26188


    You always have these great new next big thing fighters coming through, in reality none of them will ever compare to Floyd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    You always have these great new next big thing fighters coming through, in reality none of them will ever compare to Floyd.

    Well, at least allow Broner the chance. He's what, 24? He could become an ATG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭RICHIE26188


    Im not saying he wont, all im saying is that we are far to quick to build a fighter up into somthing he isnt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Im not saying he wont, all im saying is that we are far to quick to build a fighter up into somthing he isnt.

    I must have misread you. You seemed to be certain: "in reality none of them will ever compare to Floyd."

    Best to compare fighters at equal stages in their careers. Floyd at 23/24 to Broner at 23/24.


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