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Last minute penalty, running down the clock question.

  • 16-03-2013 7:36pm
    #1
    rainbowdash
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    Suppose there is 1 minute on the clock, you are in your own 22, you are 2 points ahead and you are awarded a penalty.

    Can you pontificate for a few seconds, using up time, then opt to take a kick at goal, the guy tees up the ball, then kicks the place kick straight to touch, knowing the game will be over.

    Or how else is the best way to kill 1 minute if you have a penalty in your own 22.


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  • #2
    Swiwi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Swiwi


    rainbowdash wrote: »
    Suppose there is 1 minute on the clock, you are in your own 22, you are 2 points ahead and you are awarded a penalty.

    Can you pontificate for a few seconds, using up time, then opt to take a kick at goal, the guy tees up the ball, then kicks the place kick straight to touch, knowing the game will be over.

    Or how else is the best way to kill 1 minute if you have a penalty in your own 22.

    You might want to look up the meaning of pontificate...

    ...you would also have to look at yourself in the mirror the next day...

    ...and you would probably have to leave the ground to booing...from your own supporters.

    I guess it's theoretically possible, but not really in the spirit of the game.


  • #3
    Principal Skinner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭Principal Skinner


    Swiwi wrote: »

    You might want to look up the meaning of pontificate...

    ...you would also have to look at yourself in the mirror the next day...

    ...and you would probably have to leave the ground to booing...from your own supporters.

    I guess it's theoretically possible, but not really in the spirit of the game.

    Its not possible, you cant miss a goal kick on purpose. It would be a penalty to the other team


  • #4
    Swiwi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Swiwi


    Principal Skinner wrote: »
    Its not possible, you cant miss a goal kick on purpose. It would be a penalty to the other team

    Learn something every day, cheers Principal Skinner!


  • #5
    Amprodude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Principal Skinner wrote: »

    Its not possible, you cant miss a goal kick on purpose. It would be a penalty to the other team

    Best bet is to kick the ball somewhere near the posts and out of play.


  • #6
    rainbowdash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 878 ✭✭✭rainbowdash


    Principal Skinner wrote: »
    Its not possible, you cant miss a goal kick on purpose. It would be a penalty to the other team


    Thanks for that, I was wondering if there was a rule to prevent this.


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  • #7
    cython
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    Amprodude wrote: »
    Best bet is to kick the ball somewhere near the posts and out of play.

    The odds of achieving both of those from inside your own 22 are slim enough though. Either you'll kick to touch (and hence miles from the goal), or you'll kick at the posts and it'll fall short, remaining in play. If you can kick it dead on the full from that far it'd be well worth tuning the accuracy in order to kick at goal from there :)


  • #8
    T-Maxx
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    Go for touch, win the line-out, then kick the ball out?


  • #9
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    You can also be penalised if the referee thinks you are being unsportsmanlike in your delaying before deciding what to do with the penalty. Your best bet is just to kick to touch and win the lineout.


  • #10
    sydthebeat
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    You can also be penalised if the referee thinks you are being unsportsmanlike in your delaying before deciding what to do with the penalty. Your best bet is just to kick to touch and win the lineout.

    Yes, if it's the last minute the ref will very quickly ask you for your decision.

    If you try to do as the op describes, couldn't the ref penalise you within your own 22?

    Oh, and I think you mean procrastinate


  • #11
    wp_rathead
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    I know you could do it in the old EA Sport Rugby games.. used troll sh!t out of my friends with it- go for goal in my own 22, and just tap it- the computer would automatically put the opposition in their own 22 so you'd have acres to run unoppossed... sorry went slightly off topic- I'm fairly sure you would be penalised for deliberty missing ,


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  • #12
    tolosenc
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    You have a minute to take a penalty, no? Kick it to touch after 59 seconds, then hope it takes more than a second to go out.


  • #13
    sydthebeat
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    tolosenc wrote: »
    You have a minute to take a penalty, no? Kick it to touch after 59 seconds, then hope it takes more than a second to go out.

    No. you've 90 seconds to take a kick at goal.


  • #14
    locum-motion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    No. you've 90 seconds to take a kick at goal.
    (Emphasis added by me)



    Haven't we already established that a kick at goal is not an option?


  • #15
    castie
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    The clock doesn't actually matter.

    The ref will say if there is or isnt time for a lineout.
    If he says yes it doesnt matter how long the time takes.


  • #16
    padser
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    Principal Skinner wrote: »

    Its not possible, you cant miss a goal kick on purpose. It would be a penalty to the other team

    Good example of this in Lenster v Toulose HEC SF a couple of yrs ago. Sexton had a penalty with 80 minutes gone and leinster up by less than 7 and the ref (Owens I think but I'm not sure). Sexton indicated the posts and ref then told him if he didn't make a genuine effort to score it then he would award a penalty against sexton......,

    Sexton nailed the penalty and Leindter went on to face Northhampton in Cardiff......


  • #17
    sydthebeat
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    locum-motion wrote: »
    (Emphasis added by me)



    Haven't we already established that a kick at goal is not an option?

    Who are you directing that at?

    All of was doing was clarifying for tolosenc.

    If a player has the range and can show they are not kicing for touch, then of course it's an option.... A hugly unlikely one because if you miss you are only kicking possession back to your opponent.

    Hypothetically possible, but practically impossible.


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