Cryptosporidium

aidanki

vet diagnoised it in some calf dung, from a calf that died

any cures ?

it seems to be spreading like wildfire is the bad news

whelan1

halocur from birth, i give 3x4ml for 3 days after birth, clean out all sheds and disenfect.... maybe use other housing

just do it

What did your vet recommend?

delaval

aidanki wrote: »

vet diagnoised it in some calf dung, from a calf that died

any cures ?

it seems to be spreading like wildfire is the bad news

It is a bad one alright but with Halocur you will stop in it's tracks but remember to do all calves that are born.

We were giving at rate of 8mls/calf /day and was working, Whelan recommended 12/calf/day for 3 days and that is doing the trick.

I was delighted with that tip as it costs €90 per bottle:eek: and only 490mls in bottle. DO NOT FEED ON AN EMPTY STOMACH as calf will lose appetite

aidanki

vet recommended halocur, and a few mls of enroxil

cured some but not 100% success rate

aidanki

delaval wrote: »

It is a bad one alright but with Halocur you will stop in it's tracks but remember to do all calves that are born.

We were giving at rate of 8mls/calf /day and was working, Whelan recommended 12/calf/day for 3 days and that is doing the trick.

I was delighted with that tip as it costs €90 per bottle:eek: and only 490mls in bottle. DO NOT FEED ON AN EMPTY STOMACH as calf will lose appetite

start doing them straight away for 7 days as soon as beastings has been consumed ?

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

It is a bad one alright but with Halocur you will stop in it's tracks but remember to do all calves that are born.

We were giving at rate of 8mls/calf /day and was working, Whelan recommended 12/calf/day for 3 days and that is doing the trick.

I was delighted with that tip as it costs €90 per bottle:eek: and only 490mls in bottle. DO NOT FEED ON AN EMPTY STOMACH as calf will lose appetite

i never noticed the loss of apetite tbh, i give as soon as born, will watch out for it... i have been doing it for the 3 days for 3 years and touch wood has worked ok... vet recommended the 3 day treatment

whelan1

sorry you can get a 980ml bottle as well, works out cheaper, think its around 160 euro here

greek88

Hi All, bought in a few incalf heifers and the final one to calf, calf was scouring after one day. Long story short its crypto.

I know crypto is a bad dose. They are still in the shed by me isolated from my main herd which are out on grass. My only concern is will this infection come back? I know i will be powerwashing shed down and disinfecting with hydrogen peroxide based formula(or something like that vet said) shed will be empty hopefully from a few weeks onwards or whenever calf recovers and there wont be an animal in there again (please god) until October. Am i right in saying that the crypto will be killed off and ill be in the clear. or could my slurry now be infected with this and if i spread it on the land am i going to do more harm.
Last thing i want is reinfection again?

I usually keep a closed herd, literally only thing i have done differently in last few weeks was buy in incalf heifers so i take it i bought in the crypto from there?

1373

whelan1 wrote: »

sorry you can get a 980ml bottle as well, works out cheaper, think its around 160 euro here

You can also buy it with no pump which is cheaper again , just mind the first pump . Our vet calls them refills. Not every vet offers these

greek88

1373 wrote: »

You can also buy it with no pump which is cheaper again , just mind the first pump . Our vet calls them refills. Not every vet offers these

sound out. I literally have 2 cows left to calve which are out on grass. they wont be goung back into the shed. Would i be right in saying id i powerwash and disinfect that the problem will go away for next years crop of calves?

FeelTheBern

greek88 wrote: »

Hi All, bought in a few incalf heifers and the final one to calf, calf was scouring after one day. Long story short its crypto.

I know crypto is a bad dose. They are still in the shed by me isolated from my main herd which are out on grass. My only concern is will this infection come back? I know i will be powerwashing shed down and disinfecting with hydrogen peroxide based formula(or something like that vet said) shed will be empty hopefully from a few weeks onwards or whenever calf recovers and there wont be an animal in there again (please god) until October. Am i right in saying that the crypto will be killed off and ill be in the clear. or could my slurry now be infected with this and if i spread it on the land am i going to do more harm.
Last thing i want is reinfection again?

I usually keep a closed herd, literally only thing i have done differently in last few weeks was buy in incalf heifers so i take it i bought in the crypto from there?

If the calf was scouring when only a day or two old then it sounds like what is causing the scour is most likely E. coli as opposed to crypto. I think need to be older for a crypto scour. If bought in heifer could be the case that your own cows are passing on a good level of immunity to their calves though colostrum but your bought in heifer not exposed before so no immunity to pass on. You may also have some level of crypto the herd anyway in the background which has shown up on a test.

Obviously follow your own vets advice but think you should just go ahead with disinfection etc as you have outlined above, maybe think about vaccinating with RotavecCorona for next year (or maybe your own cows done but this heifer not - again why may be ecoli scour), and keep an eye on calves but I wouldn’t be spending the year worrying about it in the meantime - should be fine ðŸ‘

1373

greek88 wrote: »

sound out. I literally have 2 cows left to calve which are out on grass. they wont be goung back into the shed. Would i be right in saying id i powerwash and disinfect that the problem will go away for next years crop of calves?

Usually, calves scouring from day one is ecoli . To answer your question, crypto is really difficult to eradicate from sheds.

greek88

Obviously follow your own vets advice but think you should just go ahead with disinfection etc as you have outlined above, maybe think about vaccinating with RotavecCorona for next year (or maybe your own cows done but this heifer not - again why may be ecoli scour), and keep an eye on calves but I wouldn’t be spending the year worrying about it in the meantime - should be fine ðŸ‘[/QUOTE]


Thanks. To be honest we never have scour issues in our calves, but to be fair 90% of them calve outside. only a handful in the last few years have calved in the shed. Vet recons incalf heifers colostrum might not have been good enough to protect calf whereas a cows colustrum would be far superior.

greek88

1373 wrote: »

Usually, calves scouring from day one is ecoli . To answer your question, crypto is really difficult to eradicate from sheds.

I had shed disinfected before last calf was born so wouldn't have thaught ecoli would be present. Stool sample came back as crypto.
Vet thaught it strange also that he was scouring from day 1. I gave him everything under the sun from recofast to bovivite turbo hydrate. by day 5 he was on an IV but has improved now. stool sample was taken day 5.

wrangler

greek88 wrote: »

sound out. I literally have 2 cows left to calve which are out on grass. they wont be goung back into the shed. Would i be right in saying id i powerwash and disinfect that the problem will go away for next years crop of calves?

Very difficult to get it out of a shed if the walls aren't plastered and smooth, any little crevice is detrimental

patsy_mccabe

Are these Dairy cows, if so colostrum won't be as good as Beef cows, as the antibodies get more diluted with the extra milk.
Younger cows and older cows too have weaker colostrum than middle-aged cows (say 4 to 8 years).

At a guess. Id say the stress from being on a new farm , coupled with being a young cow and maybe not being exposed to Crypto before have all led to poorish colostrum.

Could you get colostrum from a better cow into the calf? Would do no harm anyway.

tanko

greek88 wrote: »

sound out. I literally have 2 cows left to calve which are out on grass. they wont be goung back into the shed. Would i be right in saying id i powerwash and disinfect that the problem will go away for next years crop of calves?

Two years ago every single calf born here got crypto, had no cases last year or this year. Crypto loves dampness and hates dryness.
Clean your sheds, disinfect then and dry them out, then plenty of cubicle lime then anywhere the calves come into contact with, that's what worked here.
I think Rotavec Corona helps also.

But there's no guarantee you won't have trouble with it next year.

greek88

tanko wrote: »

Two years ago every single calf born here got crypto, had no cases last year or this year. Crypto loves dampness and hates dryness.
Clean your sheds, disinfect then and dry them out, then plenty of cubicle lime then anywhere the calves come into contact with, that's what worked here.
I think Rotavec Corona helps also.

But there's no guarantee you won't have trouble with it next year.

Thanks.

I will be slurrying fields, am i just going to spread the disease by doing this then?
even infected animals are on a concrete pad with bedding i take it some of the eggs of crypto has made its way into the slurry tank.

tanko

I don't know if slurry spreads the eggs but i wouldn't be worrying about that, if it does it does, we all have to spread the slurry.
I'd concentrate on the calving shed, keep it as clean and dry as you can.

When i had crypto here at least it was easily cured, three days of Parofor did the trick in all cases. But i know it can be hard cured on some farms.