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sliver brich trees

  • 12-03-2013 11:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭


    was in tescos roscommon and as I was leaving I noticed they where selling these trees for 6 euro.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭shooter88


    cena wrote: »
    was in tescos roscommon and as I was leaving I noticed they where selling these trees for 6 euro.
    Take a walk in any wood with a spade and get a free one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,584 ✭✭✭paddylonglegs


    shooter88 wrote: »
    Take a walk in any wood with a spade and get a free one

    Hmm, doesn't sound too legal. Coillte would have something to say about that surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Condatis


    shooter88 wrote: »
    Take a walk in any wood with a spade and get a free one

    That's theft. No different than shoplifting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭shooter88


    Condatis wrote: »

    That's theft. No different than shoplifting.
    And who exactly would someone be robbing off?woods are mostly state owned and hardly going to miss one little tree.iv a few trees from a wood if you want to report me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Condatis


    shooter88 wrote: »
    And who exactly would someone be robbing off?woods are mostly state owned and hardly going to miss one little tree.iv a few trees from a wood if you want to report me

    You have answered your own question. Should the forest be State owned this amounts to stealing from the State. Plantings represent an investment on our behalf and stealing them is unacceptable.

    Would you be so blasé about cheating on tax or social welfare?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭shooter88


    Condatis wrote: »

    You have answered your own question. Should the forest be State owned this amounts to stealing from the State. Plantings represent an investment on our behalf and stealing them is unacceptable.

    Would you be so blasé about cheating on tax or social welfare?
    That's a ridiculous comparison.I don't see the big deal woods grow naturally very few are planted what's the harm in taking a tree..not to bothered about it anyway as most of the small trees get ripped out..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Condatis


    shooter88 wrote: »
    That's a ridiculous comparison.I don't see the big deal woods grow naturally very few are planted what's the harm in taking a tree..not to bothered about it anyway as most of the small trees get ripped out..

    Not so on each point. Most of our forestry planting is planned. Thinnings are part of the process and are an important part of the forest economy. Their unauthorised removal is theft.

    The widely accepted maxim for those who visit the countryside is: "Leave nothing but your footprints. Take nothing but your memories."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Condatis wrote: »
    You have answered your own question. Should the forest be State owned this amounts to stealing from the State. Plantings represent an investment on our behalf and stealing them is unacceptable.

    Would you be so blasé about cheating on tax or social welfare?


    I wonder how he would feel if someone who needed some tyres for their car,just came in and took his wheels and tyres off his car in the middle of the night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Hmm, doesn't sound too legal. Coillte would have something to say about that surely?


    Yes they would,as would the state,any park/forest rangers and also any private estate,farmer and land owner too.

    You would be arrested for trespass,criminal damage and theft........and charged with it too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭planetX


    ps you could get bare root silver birch for half that price in a garden centre... smaller plants catch up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭shooter88


    paddy147 wrote: »


    Yes they would,as would the state,any park/forest rangers and also any private estate,farmer and land owner too.

    You would be arrested for trespass,criminal damage and theft........and charged with it too.
    Yea I suppose it is the crime of the century must be a min of 10yrs..obviously none of you are country folk


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    planetX wrote: »
    ps you could get bare root silver birch for half that price in a garden centre... smaller plants catch up.


    :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    shooter88 wrote: »
    Yea I suppose it is the crime of the century must be a min of 10yrs..obviously none of you are country folk


    None of us here steel though or advoacte it either....like you are doing.:eek::mad:

    And you dont think you have done any wrong or care either.

    Pathetic attitude from you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Condatis


    shooter88 wrote: »
    Yea I suppose it is the crime of the century must be a min of 10yrs..obviously none of you are country folk

    After taking the tree is the next step to dig up some farmers turnips and cart them away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Mo60


    Condatis wrote: »
    After taking the tree is the next step to dig up some farmers turnips and cart them away.


    And when bedding plants are needed, can we help ourselves from a public display?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭shooter88


    Jackass


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,738 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    paddy147 wrote: »
    You would be arrested for trespass,criminal damage and theft........and charged with it too.
    to be fair, i don't think anyone has ever been charged with stealing seedlings from a woodland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Mo60


    shooter88 wrote: »
    Jackass

    Must be yourself you are refering to, can't be me - wrong gender ;)

    Seriously, would you not consider buying plants rather than stealing - whatever excuses you give for your actions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭planetX


    re Paddy's picture of birches

    I wouldn't touch one of those - expensive, boring shape, will take years to establish while staked. I buy birch small, no need to stake, and they overtake the big ones quite quickly and grow a nice natural shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    shooter88 wrote: »
    That's a ridiculous comparison.I don't see the big deal woods grow naturally very few are planted what's the harm in taking a tree..not to bothered about it anyway as most of the small trees get ripped out..

    Well, why don't we all go the the forests and take 'just one' tree? We may as well dig up the plants on roundabouts while we're at it. Then all the flowers and trees will be in people's gardens and the general public can feck off, sure if they wanted to see the trees and flowers they should have stolen them while they had the chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭peadar76


    the reaction to shooter88's comment is ridiculous.
    i wouldn't think he's talking about digging up a tree that someone has gone to the trouble of planting, but a sapling that has grown from seed.
    I do that regularly and I'm harming no one or no thing. I was born and reared in the countryside and know more about respecting the countryside that most.

    Although now you all have me worried that I could be locked up for theft. Damn, I think the guards are outside looking for me right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Condatis


    So; by extension, it would be OK to take a calf born from a mating with your neighbour's bull but not one resulting from AI.

    Private property is private property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Condatis


    The development of seedlings is part of the plan – and the investment – in forestry. It's all private property.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Condatis wrote: »
    So; by extension, it would be OK to take a calf born from a mating with your neighbour's bull but not one resulting from AI.

    Private property is private property.


    Some folk would rob the clothes off your back...given half a chance.:(

    And think nothing of it either.:(:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,738 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Condatis wrote: »
    The development of seedlings is part of the plan – and the investment – in forestry. It's all private property.
    generally speaking, i don't think a silver birch grown from seed where the seed fell of its own accord is typical of the sort of commercial crop irish forestry depends on. birch would be a fairly rare forestry crop in ireland anyway. it grows too quickly here to be of much use for furniture making.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭peadar76


    I was stealing again at the weekend. Well actually it was my 6 year old nephew whom I brought for a walk who was stealing. Wild primroses. A bunch of about 15 for his mother. We're bad people.


    Getting back to silver birch trees, aldi have decent ones at the moment for €5:99


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭redser7


    Thanks for the info on the deal. But maybe we'll just drop the sarcasm and smart remarks and let this thread die a dignified death. I'm sure everyone's hearts are in the right place ...


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