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when I go into departures at an airport

  • 11-03-2013 7:27pm
    #1
    foxcoverteddy
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    I see four say different companies have flights to the same location taking off at the same time with arrival identical to all the others. are all the passengers put on one plane, or do they fly seperate services


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  • #2
    L1011
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    99% of the time its the same service, operating codeshare for all those airlines. Generally whichever is the larger carrier of that set in the airport will be the carrying airline but this isn't always the case, e.g. Aer Lingus carrying BA codes from London and KLM codes from Amsterdam.

    Occasionally its not, e.g. there has been MAN-DUB on Aer Lingus and Ryanair at the exact same scheduled minute before.


  • #3
    Flier
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    Check out the flight numbers - if they're code shares, the flight numbers will be the same, and so all the passengers will be on the same plane operated by one of the partners in the code share agreement.


  • #4
    L1011
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    Flier wrote: »
    Check out the flight numbers - if they're code shares, the flight numbers will be the same

    Never seen a case where the flight number is the same - if there is its probably pure chance.

    Dublin only shows the 'real' flight on their website, but using Manchester today, there's BA1404/IB7684/AA6453 - same flight; BA metal. Tomorrow there's EY015/AA5992, same flight, EY metal. And so on.


  • #5
    Flier
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    Yeah - sorry, completely jet lagged! Disregard. Should be obvious by the complete sameness of the departure time (and gate number etc).


  • #6
    murphym7
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    Terminal 5 in Heathrow can be pretty irritating with the 3 X Codeshare they do on a lot of flights. You see the 3 flight numbers on the information boards, which I think just clogs the whole board up plus you have the announcements for each of these too. "British Airways, American Airlines and Iberia flight to wherever" over and over again. Bit of a pain in the arse.


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  • #7
    A Dub in Glasgo
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    Yep, totally agree with the T5 comment above. It gets very irritating


  • #8
    castie
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    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Yep, totally agree with the T5 comment above. It gets very irritating

    Some people don't realize this can be the situation.
    Take the example of a person arriving in LHR from America on AA.
    Their next flight is on IB.
    The entire ticket was bought with AA and with AA flight numbers.

    There would be a chance they would not notice a call on the IB flight to their destination. You have to remember people check their brains in before they entire an airport. (From personal experience with a summer as a PSA)


  • #9
    Stovepipe
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    ...and codeshare numbers are usually four numbers long, compared to the usual 3-number code. As for pax, well, airports are confusing for the people who work there, not to mind strangers. T2 is a case in point.

    regards
    Stovepipe


  • #10
    faceman
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    murphym7 wrote: »
    Terminal 5 in Heathrow can be pretty irritating with the 3 X Codeshare they do on a lot of flights. You see the 3 flight numbers on the information boards, which I think just clogs the whole board up plus you have the announcements for each of these too. "British Airways, American Airlines and Iberia flight to wherever" over and over again. Bit of a pain in the arse.

    I queued for an incorrect flight yesterday as a result of this. 2 flights for the same destination at the exact same time. Missed my flight as a result. Wouldn't be as bad only it was a connecting flight, so my bag was already transferred through and I was checked in. The policy of not calling passengers in Heathrow really sucks. :(


  • #11
    castie
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    faceman wrote: »
    I queued for an incorrect flight yesterday as a result of this. 2 flights for the same destination at the exact same time. Missed my flight as a result. Wouldn't be as bad only it was a connecting flight, so my bag was already transferred through and I was checked in. The policy of not calling passengers in Heathrow really sucks. :(

    Would have removed your bags.
    Bags cannot travel unaccompanied in regular circumstances.


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  • #12
    faceman
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    castie wrote: »

    Would have removed your bags.
    Bags cannot travel unaccompanied in regular circumstances.

    Yeah that's what happened. My point of frustration though it that there was no call service to inform you that your flight is closing. I guess some of us get it wrong sometimes after all. :(


  • #13
    keroseneboy
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    MYOB wrote: »
    99% of the time its the same service, operating codeshare for all those airlines. Generally whichever is the larger carrier of that set in the airport will be the carrying airline but this isn't always the case, e.g. Aer Lingus carrying BA codes from London and KLM codes from Amsterdam.

    Occasionally its not, e.g. there has been MAN-DUB on Aer Lingus and Ryanair at the exact same scheduled minute before.

    Just for the sake of giving a useless factoid, there was even a MAN-DUB operated by Lufthansa on 19/2/2010. It snowed in Dublin so our flight from Frankfurt diverted to Manchester as LH have a base there.


  • #14
    Locker10a
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    keroseneboy wrote: »
    Just for the sake of giving a useless factoid, there was even a MAN-DUB operated by Lufthansa on 19/2/2010. It snowed in Dublin so our flight from Frankfurt diverted to Manchester as LH have a base there.

    Lufthansa have a base in MAN??? thats news to me!
    It doesn't really count if the flight was diverted to MAN en-route to FRA as opposed to LH planning a DUB-MAN flight for operational reasons! Was this the case?


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