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kaisersoze

Hi, I've seen a few really well done wooden fences that mount onto walls to increase the privacy of your garden.

Anyone any idea where to get them?

Thanks.

paddy147

kaisersoze wrote: »

Hi, I've seen a few really well done wooden fences that mount onto walls to increase the privacy of your garden.

Anyone any idea where to get them?

Thanks.

You can build a front garden boundary wall to 1.2 meters high and a rear garden wall to 2 meter high.

After that you can fix PT 3 x 2 inch battons on the wall and then fix cladding or trtellis frames.decking board,or even composite decking to the wall to make it taller.


You would nedd to fix this on your side of the boundary wall though.


Composite decking is a great idea for this and will last for a lifetime too.:)


Any garden centre or builders providers will stock what you need to do this.:)

kaisersoze

Thanks Paddy.

I'm not very good at making anything except a mess...I was hoping it was something that you can buy off the shelf so to speak.

It was as you describe, but it looked so good, I figured you could get it in somewhere like a B&Q.

I've looked around for it and I can't see it anywhere.

Thanks again.

paddy147 wrote: »

You can build a front garden boundary wall to 1.2 meters high and a rear garden wall to 2 meter high.

After that you can fix PT 3 x 2 inch battons on the wall and then fix cladding or trtellis frames.decking board,or even composite decking to the wall to make it taller.


You would nedd to fix this on your side of the boundary wall though.


Composite decking is a great idea for this and will last for a lifetime too.:)


Any garden centre or builders providers will stock what you need to do this.:)

paddy147

Its rather easy and simple to do.

SDS drill and some express nails.

Cut your 3 x 2 battons to a specific size.

Determin the height that you want.

Then drill through the batton and into the wall.

Hammer in express nail through batton and into wall.

Use at least 2 express nails for each batton.

Then use a straight edge or a long spirit leval and install the next batton a few feet down along the wall.

Make sure the battons are all level and at the right height to each other.

Drill/hammer in express nails.

Repeat this process until you have all your battons drilled/nailed into the wall.

Then install your piece of decking board or composite decking with some screws.

Make sure its level (spirit level) and then just repeat this process until your wall is at its new height and all the decking board is screwed up to the battons.

Simples.

kaisersoze

lol! Simples..I love it..

I've 2 left hands and 2 left feet...

:D:D:D

paddy147 wrote: »

Its rather easy and simple to do.

SDS drill and some express nails.

Cut your 3 x 2 battons to a specific size.

Determin the height that you want.

Then drill through the batton and into the wall.

Hammer in express nail through batton and into wall.

Use at least 2 express nails for each batton.

Then use a straight edge or a long spirit leval and install the next batton a few feet down along the wall.

Make sure the battons are all level and at the right height to each other.

Drill/hammer in express nails.

Repeat this process until you have all your battons drilled/nailed into the wall.

Then install your piece of decking board or composite decking with some screws.

Make sure its level (spirit level) and then just repeat this process until your wall is at its new height and all the decking board is screwed up to the battons.

Simples.

paddy147

kaisersoze wrote: »

lol! Simples..I love it..

I've 2 left hands and 2 left feet...

:D:D:D

So have I..:pac::D:D

paddy147

A few pics to give you an idea....composite decking and express nails.

RKQ

paddy147 wrote: »

You can build a front garden boundary wall to 1.2 meters high and a rear garden wall to 2 meter high.

After that you can fix PT 3 x 2 inch battons on the wall and then fix cladding or trtellis frames.decking board,or even composite decking to the wall to make it taller.

Not true - the maximum height of a boundary wall or fence is 1.2m to front boundary or 2m to rear boundary. Any trellis above 2m would require full planning permission.


Can I erect walls, fences and gates without planning permission?
Planning permission will not be required if the following applies:

The height of any such structure shall not exceed 1.2 metres in height in front of your house or 2 metres at the side or rear.

paddy147

RKQ wrote: »

Not true - the maximum height of a boundary wall or fence is 1.2m to front boundary or 2m to rear boundary. Any trellis above 2m would require full planning permission.


Can I erect walls, fences and gates without planning permission?
Planning permission will not be required if the following applies:

The height of any such structure shall not exceed 1.2 metres in height in front of your house or 2 metres at the side or rear.

So if any person in Irleand places a wooden trellis frame on their side of a boundary wall,and that trellis frame is over 2 meters in height,from the ground...then they need full planning permission for it?

If that is the case...then an awfull lot of gardens in Ireland need full planning pernmission or planning retention then.:pac:

RKQ

paddy147 wrote: »

If that is the case...then an awfull lot of gardens in Ireland need full planning pernmission or planning retention then.:pac:

That is the case paddy147, Planning law is quite clear.
It gets worse or better depending on your view as it seems The Minister for Justice wants to extend this law to ensure all trees & hedges on boundaries will be a maximum height of 2m. No more shady gardens:D

paddy147

RKQ wrote: »

That is the case paddy147, Planning law is quite clear.
It gets worse or better depending on your view as it seems The Minister for Justice wants to extend this law to ensure all trees & hedges on boundaries will be a maximum height of 2m. No more shady gardens:D

The minister for justice (Mr Shatter) should deal with much more serious and important matters 1st.

Look at the state of the country,how he is treating the gardai and handling all the problems and serious crimes.:rolleyes:



I still find it hard to believe that a person who places a piece of trellis frame on their side of a back garden boundary wall,that they need to apply for full planning permission for this if the trellis frame is above 2 meters in height.



If a tree doesnt need to be below that height or a hedges dont need to be either,then how can a piece of trellis fame attached to your side of a back garden boundary wall (on your land) be breaking the law?????

Come on like.

RKQ

paddy147 wrote: »

how can a piece of trellis fame attached to your side of a back garden boundary wall (on your land) be breaking the law?????

Sorry paddy147, but that's the law. Anything on a fence or wall over 2m in height requires planning permission. To be exempt from applying for permission the fence must be below 2m.

I'm just quoting the regulation to you. Check it out for yourself. I didn't write the planning regulation, I just letting you know 2m is the maximum allowable height.

As regards a boundary between 2 properties at different level, I'd suggest that its 2m high above the lowest level in order to comply. If there was a large diffference in level of 3 to 5 feet at the boundary then I'd suggest the owner apply for planning permission to seek clarification from the Local Authority.

josip

paddy147 wrote: »

I still find it hard to believe that a person who places a piece of trellis frame on their side of a back garden boundary wall,that they need to apply for full planning permission for this if the trellis frame is above 2 meters in height.

Our back garden faces west and we live in semidland. If our neighbour on our south side puts trellis above 2m on our boundary wall, that will significantly reduce the sunlight entering our back garden. Especially with the low sun in winter, late autumn and early spring. Every cm they go up would be up to 5cm more shade on our small garden. If they tried it on, I'd tell them to take it down. If they asked in advance I'd say no. If they looked for planning permission I'd object.

paddy147

josip wrote: »

Our back garden faces west and we live in semidland. If our neighbour on our south side puts trellis above 2m on our boundary wall, that will significantly reduce the sunlight entering our back garden. Especially with the low sun in winter, late autumn and early spring. Every cm they go up would be up to 5cm more shade on our small garden. If they tried it on, I'd tell them to take it down. If they asked in advance I'd say no. If they looked for planning permission I'd object.

Thats fair enough.

Macy0161

RKQ wrote: »

That is the case paddy147, Planning law is quite clear.
It gets worse or better depending on your view as it seems The Minister for Justice wants to extend this law to ensure all trees & hedges on boundaries will be a maximum height of 2m. No more shady gardens:D

For urban gardens or all gardens. My (rural) planning permission insisted I plant trees and I had to pay a significant (albeit refundable) bond to ensure the planting was done!

paddy147

Macy0161 wrote: »

For urban gardens or all gardens. My (rural) planning permission insisted I plant trees and I had to pay a significant (albeit refundable) bond to ensure the planting was done!

Fair play to you for doing it.

To many concrete jungles and lack of gardens/planting in this day and age.

Partial reason for so much flooding too.:(

Macy0161

paddy147 wrote: »

Fair play to you for doing it.

To many concrete jungles and lack of gardens/planting in this day and age.

Partial reason for so much flooding too.:(

I would've done it anyway for shelter and privacy, but my point is more about the potentially changing the law so I'd have to top them (and with the deer it was a struggle to get them to stage they're at now)!

paddy147

Macy0161 wrote: »

I would've done it anyway for shelter and privacy, but my point is more about the potentially changing the law so I'd have to top them (and with the deer it was a struggle to get them to stage they're at now)!

My hat off to you and your thoughtfullness.:)


Thats the problem these days...everyone wants to build and concrete or pave over everything and leave no garden space/land at all.

Even with a good few new builds,there is no real garden space provided....just a "small strip" down the side for a few plants.:(

That also has a bad impact on nature and all the various creatures that are vital for a garden and plants/trees.
Also leads to increased flooding risk too.




PS-Id say its a lovely sight to have deer close to your house and be able to watch them.:)