Buttercups

bnear · 10-03-2013 4:32pm #1

I have a small paddock, just over an acre, its full of buttercups, what the best spray to kill them ? When would be the best time to spray and would I need to do it a second time ??:) Thanks

td5man · 10-03-2013 5:04pm

bnear wrote: »

I have a small paddock, just over an acre, its full of buttercups, what the best spray to kill them ? When would be the best time to spray and would I need to do it a second time ??:) Thanks

And other small broad leaf weeds

micky mouse · 10-03-2013 6:27pm

Know a lad that sprayed his buttercuts in april using a very small amount of mortone,not like the amount ya would be using to kill the rushes.Buttercups are easy to kill unlike the rush

bnear · 10-03-2013 6:28pm

Theres a few nettles but other than that its fairly weed free....

Manoffeeling · 10-03-2013 8:25pm

I bet ya it's rotten for lime.

Muckit · 10-03-2013 8:28pm

I think buttercups like waterlogged soil aswell, not surprising they are everywhere after the last few years

Conflats · 11-03-2013 10:10am

Be better to use lime rather than a spray, the answer is not always at the bottom of a can

td5man · 11-03-2013 10:32am

td5man wrote: »

And other small broad leaf weeds

What i meant was what spray would you use for buttecups and other small broad leaved weeds .
The ground in question is in need of lime

RobinBanks · 11-03-2013 10:36am

Manoffeeling wrote: »

I bet ya it's rotten for lime.

+1

Farmer Pudsey · 11-03-2013 10:41am

td5man wrote: »

What i meant was what spray would you use for buttecups and other small broad leaved weeds .
The ground in question is in need of lime

It depends on if you have clover or not and if docks are a serious issue. I presume that the clover present is not worth saving. Then if docks are the most serious issue use Hiload micram use an activator rather than somthing suc as diesel as the activator will increse the kill. D50 is also a good spray will hit a lot of small broad leaf weeds will check docks and with activator will chec them hard. There are other sprays targeted at weeds such as chickweed as the above will not kill it.

Docks will need to be sprayed two years running. Even if reseeding I spray with a selective weedkiller to really weaken the strong weeds in longterm permanent pasture before spraying off the following year for reseeding.

However I would soil test provided you have not spread P&K/slurry this year yet. It is only about 18/sample.

td5man · 11-03-2013 10:50am

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

It depends on if you have clover or not and if docks are a serious issue. I presume that the clover present is not worth saving. Then if docks are the most serious issue use Hiload micram use an activator rather than somthing suc as diesel as the activator will increse the kill. D50 is also a good spray will hit a lot of small broad leaf weeds will check docks and with activator will chec them hard. There are other sprays targeted at weeds such as chickweed as the above will not kill it.

Docks will need to be sprayed two years running. Even if reseeding I spray with a selective weedkiller to really weaken the strong weeds in longterm permanent pasture before spraying off the following year for reseeding.

However I would soil test provided you have not spread P&K/slurry this year yet. It is only about 18/sample.

No docks no clover soil sampled last year got 4k slurry a couple of weeks ago.
Badly in need of reseeding been cut twice a year for twenty plus years it should have been reseeded this year but due to last years weather didn't get last years bit done

bnear · 11-03-2013 2:50pm

Ok so am I right in thinking that I need to spray and spread some lime ??? I'm not a farmer so don't have slurry, its just a small paddock but I'd like to get it cleared of the buttercups for the summer.... How much lime would I need, its probably about an acre and a half at the most. Thanks for all the help....

Farmer Pudsey · 11-03-2013 3:13pm

bnear wrote: »

Ok so am I right in thinking that I need to spray and spread some lime ??? I'm not a farmer so don't have slurry, its just a small paddock but I'd like to get it cleared of the buttercups for the summer.... How much lime would I need, its probably about an acre and a half at the most. Thanks for all the help....

Your best bet is granlime 3/bags/acre this year and next and then test the following winter for PH keep applying at that rate until pg is at over 6.5. then one bag an acre after that. If you soil test you will see the P&K as well.

Farmer Pudsey · 11-03-2013 3:17pm

td5man wrote: »

No docks no clover soil sampled last year got 4k slurry a couple of weeks ago.
Badly in need of reseeding been cut twice a year for twenty plus years it should have been reseeded this year but due to last years weather didn't get last years bit done

What were the soil sample results.

I hit it with D50 it will clean most if no docks use the activator and it will hit any rush as well. Spray off in a year or two's time to reseed

Muckit · 11-03-2013 3:31pm

I've creeping buttercup that needs spraying. what about MCPA amine500 Pudsey? Do you think that D50 is better?? ....I never used it.

Farmer Pudsey · 11-03-2013 3:35pm

Muckit wrote: »

I've creeping buttercup that needs spraying. what about MCPA amine500 Pudsey? Do you think that D50 is better?? ....I never used it.

same thing just a different brand name I hydra is hygea is the D50.

td5man · 11-03-2013 3:48pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

What were the soil sample results.

I hit it with D50 it will clean most if no docks use the activator and it will hit any rush as well. Spray off in a year or two's time to reseed

Thanks have to spray the same field for ragwort anyway .
Cant remember how much lime it needs .

bnear · 11-03-2013 5:20pm

Thanks for the advice Farmer Pudsey, is it too early to spread the granlime ?

Farmer Pudsey · 11-03-2013 11:47pm

No this is the advantage with it you can spread it any time and on silage ground at any time.

bnear · 14-03-2013 8:20pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

No this is the advantage with it you can spread it any time and on silage ground at any time.

Thanks for the advice Farmer Pudsey, I have one more question, it might be stupid but like I said I'm not a farmer..... so I've come to the experts.... if I spread the granlime do I have to spray as well or will the lime kill the buttercups ???

If i have to spray should I do it later in the year as well ?? 2 questions I know.........:o

Farmer Pudsey · 14-03-2013 9:32pm

You may have to spray as well, however I spread granlime first you will need to give it time to work. 3+ months. I would leave off spraying until PH is wll up. Not an expert on buttercups. The groung also tens to be a bit wet where they grow.

Blue Holland · 15-03-2013 12:52am

Just a matter of interest but do you have horses on it, have heard that horses bring buttercups. Don't know why or if there's any truth in it!

bnear · 19-03-2013 11:40am

I did have horses on it but thats a few years ago, its not really wet land but then again all land has been wet this year... I did spray it once and it killed the buttercups but I probably should have sprayed a second time to kill the seeds... Ah well you live and learn... I'll try the granlime this year.
Thanks everyone for the advice.:)

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