Ex IQ team

CIARAN_BOYLE

A little challenge here, can anyone make a XXIII up of current players who were IQ through decent or residency but chose to represent another country (or if only IQ through residency to leave)

I'll start off by contributing a few names, can anyone fill out the 23

1 Alex Corisiero
3 Paul Doran-Jones
7 Ray Ofisa
10 Shane Geraghty
14 Vasily Artemyev
17 Paddy Ryan
18 Kieran Brookes
22 Jeremy Manning

trouttrout

That Russian chap

CIARAN_BOYLE

trouttrout wrote: »

That Russian chap

He was never actually IQ it was ruled that going to boarding school in Ireland and returning to Russia outside of term time to go back to his parents didn't count as residency

Taco Corp

does Ruaidhri Murphy fit this list (yet)?

Malmedicine

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

He was never actually IQ it was ruled that going to boarding school in Ireland and returning to Russia outside of term time to go back to his parents didn't count as residency

He qualified whilst studying law in ucd

garhjw

Dallaglio?

Zzippy

Stephen Moore (Irish parents)

Sundy

Cameron Jowitt, Samoan/Kiwi - Got Irish residency but thankfully was packed off to Oz.

Cardinal Richelieu

garhjw wrote: »

Dallaglio?

OP mentions current players. Dallaglio is well retired

Cardinal Richelieu

Declan Danaher?

opinionatedfan

Nick Kennedy?

chupacabra

James O'Connor. Sure with a name like that how could he NOT qualify?

Sundy

chupacabra wrote: »

James O'Connor. Sure with a name like that how could he NOT qualify?

Because he is not Irish?

coincidently he does qualify for NZ & SA along with Australia

bilston

Glasgow winger Tommy Seymour

Riskymove

Kyran Bracken at Scrumhalf

although he was actually irish as oppossed to IQ

EDIT: Ah current players..oh well

totallegend

11. Matt Banahan
13. Pat McCabe

17. Dave Ryan - has declared himself for USA and Italy but technically still IQ.

The Matt Banahan thing is mental; people born in the Channel Islands can declare for any of the four Home Unions.

irishbucsfan

1 Alex Corisiero
2 Stephen Moore
3 Paul Doran-Jones
4 Cameron Jowitt
5
6 Declan Danaher
7 Ray Ofisa
8
9
10 Jeremy Manning
11 Tommy Seymour
12 Shane Geraghty
13 Pat McCabe
14 Vasily Artemyev
15

EDIT: I think Owen Farrell might have some irish blood? If he does we could put Manning at 15 and him at 10. There are probably tons of English players who are technically IQ in some way but we never hear about it because they're either not good enough or too good

Glass Prison 1214

Sean Kennedy, born in limerick but is in the Scotland Six Nations squad. 21 year old scrum half.

Deano7788

5. Nick Kennedy. Grandmother from Limerick

irishbucsfan

Deano7788 wrote: »

5. Nick Kennedy. Grandmother from Limerick

Just need an 8 and a 15 now!

CIARAN_BOYLE

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Just need an 8 and a 15 now!

We can put Banahan in at 11 and shift Seymour to 15 if we need to

clsmooth

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Just need an 8 and a 15 now!

Leo Auva'a?

CIARAN_BOYLE

clsmooth wrote: »

Leo Auva'a?

He is still IQ, maybe when he leaves

totallegend

Wow. What a sh*t team it would be.

lurtz

Declan O'Donnell,played NZ sevens

[Jackass]

Isn't there an Irish lad playing out in Indonesia or somewhere really obscure like that (in rugby terms). Think there was a documentary on him playing world cup qualifiers. Seem to recall he was a 15.

I could do a few retired lads, like Keiran Bracken, the English scrum half, but haven't a rashers of any current ones, other than Artemyev who was already mentioned.

I think it's fair to say we're winning when it comes to the granny rule anyway...

PhatPiggins

irishbucsfan wrote: »

1 Alex Corisiero
2 Stephen Moore
3 Paul Doran-Jones
4 Cameron Jowitt
5
6 Declan Danaher
7 Ray Ofisa
8
9
10 Jeremy Manning
11 Tommy Seymour
12 Shane Geraghty
13 Pat McCabe
14 Vasily Artemyev
15

EDIT: I think Owen Farrell might have some irish blood? If he does we could put Manning at 15 and him at 10. There are probably tons of English players who are technically IQ in some way but we never hear about it because they're either not good enough or too good

I thought the rule was have chosen to represent another country? None of those lads are internationals, I hope!

locum-motion

totallegend wrote: »

...people born in the Channel Islands can declare for any of the four Home Unions.

Not just that, anyone with a parent or grandparent born there (or in the Isle of Man) can declare the same. One of Budge Pountney's grannies came from the IOM, hence he was qualified for Scotland.

The reasoning is that they are UK citizens, but since they don't have their own international teams to play for, they can declare for any of the 4 constituent nations of the UK that do have teams. And yes, Northern Ireland is included in that!

Cardinal Richelieu

[Jackass] wrote: »

Isn't there an Irish lad playing out in Indonesia or somewhere really obscure like that (in rugby terms). Think there was a documentary on him playing world cup qualifiers. Seem to recall he was a 15.

Kazakhstan, Luke O'Callaghan back in 2007, is he still playing?

http://metroeireann.com/article/the-sports-interview-irelands,480

CIARAN_BOYLE

PhatPiggins wrote: »

I thought the rule was have chosen to represent another country? None of those lads are internationals, I hope!

Seymour is I think, he featured in one of the AIs.

Anyway the idea the thread was IQ players who are no longer IQ, be that through representing another country or if they were IQ through residency by leaving since they can no longer be selected if they leave before being capped

Cardinal Richelieu

Here is one for the rugby experts, anyone know if the Murphy's highlighted are Irish IQ?

WIKI

UAE Squad for 2012 Emirates Airlines Cup: 1. Christopher Jones-Griffiths 2. Peter Sampson 3. Graham Murphy 4. Tristan Barnett 5. Anthony Murphy * 6. William Drinkwater * 7. Guy Potter * 8. Renier Els (captain) 9. Jono Bester 10. James Ham * 11. Hassan Al Noobi 12. Josh Dransfield * 13. Hareb Al Qzri * 14. Mohammed Abbas * 15. Ross Coombe *
Substitutes: 16. Jonathan Greenwood 17. Brett Bowie * 18. Kristian Stinson * 19. Riaan Boshoff * 20. Ali Ghulam 21. Philip Stevens * 22. Gareth Armstrong 23. Chris Burch *

Cardinal Richelieu

Connor Murphy, Fly Half, Galway Corinthians, Sweden

Finn Gormley, Wing, Galway Corinthians, Norway

Bergen Rugby Club, 2011

He plays for the Connacth A side and was brought to our attention by Michael Bradley as being eligible for Norway, there for this is doubling up as a national trial for him. He plays his Klubb rugby for Corinthians RFC in the All Ireland League second division

Colm O'Cleirigh, Bective, Cyprus

RoundBox11

Is that Tait guy still playing? He's represented England but was IQ because one of his parents is from the north afaik.

How does Corbisiero qualify?? Thought he was Italian-american?

thomond2006

RoundBox11 wrote: »

Is that Tait guy still playing? He's represented England but was IQ because one of his parents is from the north afaik.

If you mean Mathew Tait, yes he is still playing. He was out for a good 15 months through injury but returned recently for Leicester.

CIARAN_BOYLE

RoundBox11 wrote: »

Is that Tait guy still playing? He's represented England but was IQ because one of his parents is from the north afaik.

How does Corbisiero qualify?? Thought he was Italian-american?

I believe that the american background was Irish American. I can't find a link with details of him being IQ but it is stated that he is IQ

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0320/1224313579706.html
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/corbisiero-the-one-that-got-away-148370.html

Taco Corp

Wasn't there an Irish lad playing u20's for France a year or 2 ago?

Taco Corp

Captain_Hindsight wrote: »

Wasn't there an Irish lad playing u20's for France a year or 2 ago?

Think it might be this guy I'm thinking of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_O%27Connor

PJ Maybe

I seem to remember Drew Mitchell was Irish Qualified. The only reference to it that I can find though is a previous post on Boards which is probably where I heard it first so not sure how accurate it is. If so it would be the grandparent rule.

f1dan

Cardinal Richelieu wrote: »

Kazakhstan, Luke O'Callaghan back in 2007, is he still playing?

http://metroeireann.com/article/the-sports-interview-irelands,480

AFAIK he was traveling with the Russian champions Enisei STM last year when they played Connacht and Munster and was acting as a translator or something like that. No idea if he is actually playing though.

bilston

RoundBox11 wrote: »

Is that Tait guy still playing? He's represented England but was IQ because one of his parents is from the north afaik.

How does Corbisiero qualify?? Thought he was Italian-american?

Matthew Tait? If that's who you mean then I didn't know that. He was a smashing young player but between injuries and getting shifted around the backline he has never lived up to his potential. I always thought he would have been a brillant 13, albeit not necessarily defensively, he suffered from the Johnson regime.

macslash

Could Shaun Payne not be considered for this?

Or is that different?

Deano7788

macslash wrote: »

Could Shaun Payne not be considered for this?

Or is that different?

Nah, he's retired.