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Would Possible Convition affect Future Employment?

  • 07-03-2013 8:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2


    Hi there
    Ive been trying to find information online about this topic but with no success.

    Q. What would be the effect on someone being future employed in the financial industry be if they had a conviction for nonpayment of a fine relating to having no NCT on their car?

    The scenario is
    - somehow find €150 to pay the fine (level of difficulty - HIGH) or
    - go to prison for a few days max.

    Personally I'm not really too worried about going to prison for a few days as chances are I wont even get past the front door with overcrowding, but if I did it wouldn't be a big issue for me....unless it meant I would be unemployable in the future. If it were easy to pay the fine I'd be done with it but as I'm a full-time student and loan parent, finances are, to be polite, crippling.

    Can anyone please shine some light on the situation if they have any knowledge regarding it.

    Thanks a mil :)


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭xxlauraxxox


    have you tried appealing the decision and if not do so or make a payment plan with your local court clerk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,086 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    There's no dishonesty involved in your offence, which helps.

    But non-payment of a fine could suggest to a prospective employer either poor financial management skills (don't get yourself into a situation where you become liable to a fine that you cannot pay) or poor judgment, and either of those could tell against you - if your employer knew about it. I think you'd have to be unlucky, but no-one on this board can promise you that you won't be unlucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Plenty of jobs require criminal records checks, I'd make a payment plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,211 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    If you are talking about working in a financial regulated industry, fit and proper standards could come into play. One of the questions asks is have you ever had a criminal conviction. Your employer would have to assess as to whether this conviction could materially affect how you carry out your role. It is quite subjective, but an employer would more than likely take someone else on if they didnt have a conviction over you (all things being equal). Advice is to pay the fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 JK_87


    Thanks for the "voice of reason"

    At the end of the day even if this didn't prevent me from getting employment on paper, it does seem reasonable, that between me and a person without any record, I would be the less favorable candidate.

    I'm glad I got some second opinions. Even if they weren't what I wanted to hear :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    JK_87 wrote: »
    Thanks for the "voice of reason"

    At the end of the day even if this didn't prevent me from getting employment on paper, it does seem reasonable, that between me and a person without any record, I would be the less favorable candidate.

    I'm glad I got some second opinions. Even if they weren't what I wanted to hear :)

    You could jeopardize your entire future for €150. I know its a lot when you don't have it but in the long term its not much. Any employer is going to take a conviction seriously, even a minor one. Life is so competitive now don't put yourself at a disadvantage.

    Find a way to pay the fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Conor84


    I think you have the conviction anyway - you just have to decide what to do about the fine.

    I got a fine for public order stuff and it was pay the fine or x days in prison in default. I paid the fine - thought about taking the risk but didn't fancy spending any time at all in Mountjoy.

    The thing is you have to decide whether to pay the fine or 'risk' a trip to prison. Like you say if that happened you would probably not even be there overnight but it is still a risk.

    I had a mate in teh same situation nad he went back and got more time to pay the fine so maybe try that.

    I doubt if having a conviction for no NCT would cause you to lose out in a job application.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    Its a motor offence so its not the same as a criminal conviction. Not paying the fine however is an offence and a criminal conviction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,211 ✭✭✭joeguevara


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,211 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Conor84 wrote: »
    I think you have the conviction anyway - you just have to decide what to do about the fine.

    I got a fine for public order stuff and it was pay the fine or x days in prison in default. I paid the fine - thought about taking the risk but didn't fancy spending any time at all in Mountjoy.

    The thing is you have to decide whether to pay the fine or 'risk' a trip to prison. Like you say if that happened you would probably not even be there overnight but it is still a risk.

    I had a mate in teh same situation nad he went back and got more time to pay the fine so maybe try that.

    I doubt if having a conviction for no NCT would cause you to lose out in a job application.

    The OP asked specifically about the financial industry. There are strict laws about criminal convictions (contained in the Fitness and Probity Standards as set out in the Central bank Reform Act). They have to be disclosed before obtaining employment. People Hiring will take someone without a criminal conviction over someone with one.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    Its a motor offence so its not the same as a criminal conviction. Not paying the fine however is an offence and a criminal conviction.

    I don't think you are correct. A person is only convicted once, it is a fine or x days in default. There is no further conviction as its not an offence not to pay a fine. If it was it would be necessary to bring you back before a court on that issue which does not happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    I don't think you are correct. A person is only convicted once, it is a fine or x days in default. There is no further conviction as its not an offence not to pay a fine. If it was it would be necessary to bring you back before a court on that issue which does not happen.

    I stand corrected. So what conviction would be recorded and would the default be recorded?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    I stand corrected. So what conviction would be recorded and would the default be recorded?

    The record would say conviction in x court on x day for no NCT it would also say penalty of fine of x € I think it would also record the default time in prison. I'm not sure if the record will show that time was served.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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