Best bjj players

Stillweak

who would be the best Bjj practitioners in ireland today?
I mean right now, today, on the mats who would win most times in Ibjjf rules.

The top two are obvious. (Darragh and Chris)
Who would make up the rest of the top 10.
We had Grapplepalooza but not all the best players were able to compete. Injuries, work etc
I know it's not straight forward ie weight difference, coaching/work/family getting in way of full time training etc but lets try not to complicate answers as much as possible.

This is not meant in anyway to put anyone down or get in a bragging match. Just interested in like minded peoples opinions. Anybody worth a mention past or present deserves respect.

darced

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manga_10

lower down the belts , james gallagher , joey breslin , sam mcnally

magicherbs

i presume that brown belt from cork/kerry, paddy also liam beechnor

crosdad

Chris bowe and Darragh O conaill are the two best guys in my opinion. They have brought home the most medals from major tournaments and after rolling with them millions of times i have no doubt. Not far behind them would be Arek and Tom king from sbg who have have both brought home medals from the gi and no gi europeans this year.

Guys like Joey breslin, John sheirdan, james gallagher have also been collecting alot of medals abroad. There are also lots of other great guys who aren't active competitors.

pablohoney87

Key word is Competitors. Look at who brings home the medals internationally

Darragh O'Connell
Chris Bowe
Tom King
Joey Breslin
James Gallagher
John Sheridan

Honourable Mentions

Richie Crossdale
Brendan McGarry
Piotr (From Cork)
Richie Ivory (Not sure how often he competes in the gi though)

lionheart_ma

Gera nabuco Defo deserves a mention. He beat darragh at the Irish open. I know he's heavier then darragh but he still is up there with the best.

darced

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pablohoney87

darced wrote: »

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Well yes there are SOME blue and purple belts that can match up quite well with SOME black belts.

Tom.D.BJJ

That would be an ecumenical matter. No one cares, except a few white belts and people who don't train.

SDTimeout

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Well yes there are SOME blue and purple belts that can match up quite well with SOME black belts.

+1

Joey subbed a black belt in tournament when he was a blue belt / brand new purple. Think it was blue though.

But these guys I know don't like stuff like this, they train to improve themselves, Tom is right.

Stillweak

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

That would be an ecumenical matter. No one cares, except a few white belts and people who don't train.

Everybody cares who's the best in every sport. It's just the new cool thing in bjj to pretend you don't.
Training to get better is the most important thing, but while doing that, why not care whose the best? Why not give recognition to those who are working hard everyday to become the best.

Stillweak

darced wrote: »

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You're right, that's what I'm looking for but looking at where/how/how many medals won is a pretty good way to find the best.
There is something extra special about putting yourself on the chopping block for everyone to see if you fail and then coming out with a medal.
No losers at competitions. Just people who didn't win this time around.

And I know there are a few blue belts who can beat our black belts.

darced

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EnjoyChoke

darced wrote: »

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I get the feeling that what you know about Jiu-Jitsu could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

Stillweak

EnjoyChoke wrote: »

I get the feeling that what you know about Jiu-Jitsu could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

I know what you know about jiu jitsu would need a a pretty big book to be written on.
Sometimes you make statements on boards but don't explain.
Could you let us know where you feel darced has gone wrong?

Chris89

If they dont compete NOW, we probably cannot say whether or not they are the best. If by best we mean whos able to beat who and not what belt they are or how much knowledge they have.

Darragh and Chris are the best at the moment in my opinion, John Sheridan is the only other compeitor regularly medalling at the big international competitions. John also qualified for the world jiu jitsu cup in Abu Dhabi this year and will be representing Ireland, as will Chris Bowe who qualified at the London trials.

As he who must not be named says, "its all about results".

darced

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EnjoyChoke

Chris89 wrote: »

If they dont compete NOW, we probably cannot say whether or not they are the best. If by best we mean whos able to beat who [/U].

If they roll against each other you can. One of the best players I know has never competed. He's without a doubt in the top 10 of who can beat who in Ireland, he'll roll with anyone so this is easily proven.

Stillweak

darced wrote: »

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Unfortunately he doesn't seem to do requests.

magicherbs

EnjoyChoke wrote: »

One of the best players I know has never competed. He's without a doubt in the top 10 of who can beat who in Ireland, he'll roll with anyone so this is easily proven.

who dat? dave roache ?

Chris89

yeh who dat!

Dtp79

Charlie ward

Richy06

Majiek springs to mind.

Stillweak

Disappointed more people didn't offer opinions on their top 10 bjj players.
Thanks to those who did.
Hopefully there will be some good opportunities to see the good and great of irish bjj in action soon.

da-bres

NERIJUS

da-bres

Stillweak wrote: »

Everybody cares who's the best in every sport. It's just the new cool thing in bjj to pretend you don't.
Training to get better is the most important thing, but while doing that, why not care whose the best? Why not give recognition to those who are working hard everyday to become the best.

Genuinely couldnt give a ****e, but maybe im too cool! :cool:

slammer187

Stillweak wrote: »

Everybody cares who's the best in every sport. It's just the new cool thing in bjj to pretend you don't.
Training to get better is the most important thing, but while doing that, why not care whose the best? Why not give recognition to those who are working hard everyday to become the best.

People care about who's the best in the WORLD, not so much Ireland

Kieran81

Stillweak wrote: »

Disappointed more people didn't offer opinions on their top 10 bjj players.
Thanks to those who did.
Hopefully there will be some good opportunities to see the good and great of irish bjj in action soon.

There is actually more to bjj than getting medals in comps , competitions just one aspect of the art . Take a look at chris fields as an example , His style of working to dominant position and finishing guys like pavel kusch is every bit a display of high level effective bjj as the lads who have won medals at the big comps

darced

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Stillweak

da-bres wrote: »

Genuinely couldnt give a ****e, but maybe im too cool! :cool:

Everybody cares.
If I was training with you and mentioned that your opinion of the top guys was wildly different to mine, you would let me know.

Stillweak

Kieran81 wrote: »

There is actually more to bjj than getting medals in comps , competitions just one aspect of the art . Take a look at chris fields as an example , His style of working to dominant position and finishing guys like pavel kusch is every bit a display of high level effective bjj as the lads who have won medals at the big comps

Hi Kieran
I think your talking about mma.
Who do you think are the top bjj players in Ireland?

slammer187

Stillweak wrote: »

Everybody cares.
If I was training with you and mentioned that your opinion of the top guys was wildly different to mine, you would let me know.

Where do you train at? Could you give us your list of the top 10 guys in Ireland

Kieran81

Stillweak wrote: »

Hi Kieran
I think your talking about mma.
Who do you think are the top bjj players in Ireland?

I'm talking about bjj , I think that means more than ibjjf , I think some of the best displays of bjj Irish people have shown have been in mma as well as ibjjf (or other grappling comp) rulesets
As for who's the best , well I know whos bjj I enjoy , John Sheridan , paddy houlihan , darragh o conaill , chris fields and Michael devlin would be my own favourites

da-bres

Stillweak wrote: »

Everybody cares.
If I was training with you and mentioned that your opinion of the top guys was wildly different to mine, you would let me know.

TBH I enjoy so many of the grappler's in Ireland and certainly couldn't give you ten names, more like 50! We have so many skilled guys across the country in all grappling styles who are improving day by day!

Most people just care about having fun and getting fit, not the top ten!

Richy06

Naming names and putting this guy over that guy would soon turn into a pissing contest and might even put afew noses out of joint. We all support one another on this small island so some don't feel confortable naming names, it is what it is. You certainly can't force someone to do it or dress them down for not doing so.

It'd also end up with this team saying all their guys are best and so on so forth.

In all the clubs around the country, there are killers. Some clubs have secret killers who don't compete, then there's those we know of. Just support everyone rather than worry about things like that.

Some of the best guys I know don't compete at all or just don't compete in BJJ. Paddy Holohan would give most of the tops guys I know fits but you won't see him in an IBJJF style comp soon.

Tom.D.BJJ

I'd be interested to hear who the OP (Stillweak) thinks are the best guys in the country and why? Or maybe, just maybe this thread has another purpose (like his BJJ Foxrock thread). Anyway, stillweak, tell us who you think are the bestest and baddest of the Irish BJJ fraternity.

Richy06

Oh is it the same guy? Weak sauce.