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Accuracy of online published 1916 Roll of Honour

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  • 06-03-2013 8:09pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭


    The 1916 “Roll of Honour" was initiated by Comrades associations of the veterans to produce an accurate list of those who served in the various garrisons during Easter Week.
    It was compiled, amended, deleted and added to prior and after its presentation to the National Museum but always by senior officers in an attempt to improve its accuracy.
    To date, I believe, it has only been publish in hard copy on one occasion, by “Anvil Books” in 1986, and it is this list that has been re-published on various web sites.
    The original, in paper format, is unavailable for research to the public.

    This copy of the roll has been taken as accurate with the authors own claim that the roll is “the definite record”.

    However, it is in my opinion, an inaccurate assumption.

    Firstly the “Anvil Roll” admits it does not include the provincial participants. There are 3 full garrisons missing.

    Secondly a full page from one garrison was accidently omitted, leaving 57 signatures’ now missing from the online copies available.
    Thirdly the original contains rank and unit for many signatures’ plus a deceased indication for those who were added posthumously, this is not in the published copy.

    Finally, transcribing the signatures is not guaranteed accurate science.
    Below are two important signators, in James Connelly’s personal secretary Winifred Carney & Kathleen Florence Lynn the chief medical officer to the Irish Citizen Army.

    In both cases they have been added incorrectly in the “Anvil Roll” and thus in online copies.

    clip_image002.jpg shown incorrectly as Winifred Conway
    clip_image004.jpg shown incorrectly as Kathleen Flynn


    Your thoughts please!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭Robus


    “My Granddad was in the GPO”: As the Dublin joke goes if every grandchild who made that claim was telling the truth the GPO would have covered ALL of Sackville Street.
    So who was in the 1916 Rising, who was in the GPO, who fought in Easter Week 1916? It’s not a straightforward answerable question.
    A search of the combined lists below will probably include their name somewhere, if there is no record on any list similarly they probably wasn’t there.
    The list now contains 47,388 line of information, each starting with a name. If a name is followed by exactly the same data its two different people, different data after the same name may be the same person or different people, that’s up to you to determine.
    • The National Museums' actual "Roll of Honour",
    • The Annville press published (and other web site copied) incomplete, unranked and garrisoned, roll of honour.
    • Arrests, transfers, detention and release list from Irish & English Prisons.
    • Frongoch Camp in North Wales "Roll Call"
    • Contributors of Statements, collections, photographs to the Bureau of Military History"
    • The Catholic Bulletin 1916 - 1919 "Easter Week" articles on the killed in Action
    • Court Martial results for May 1916
    • Internment of Bodies in the Dublin Cemeteries
    • Civil War Army census returns.
    • Irish Citizen Army “Roll of honour”
    • Certified roll of members of Headquarters Active Service Units , War of Independence
    • Roll of Honour of Fourth Battalion Dublin Bridge
    • Dublin Castle Special Branch Files
    If you want it checked just ask below (not private message) and I will try to post replies on this thread. The historical experts in this forum are sure to follow with detailed information from their combined extensive knowledge.

    Let’s see how it goes!


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