Hemlock Grove April 19th (NETFLIX) [** Spoilers **]

don ramo

another netflix original, Hemlock Grove is a 13 part series that will available on Netflix on the 19th of april all at once,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlZUsPcChgI

A young girl is brutally murdered and found near the former Godfrey steel mill. As rumors mount, two of the suspects in her killing—Peter Rumancek, a 17-year-old Gypsy trailer trash kid rumored to be a werewolf, and Roman, the heir to the Godfrey estate—decide to find the killer themselves.


netflix are really trying to develop a decent bunch of original series, i havent got around to house of cards yet, but im hearing great things about it,

don ramo

a few new trailers, still giving very little insight into the characters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WweCmgr7fyA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIL0u2RUR9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HjbcEfqLws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW_QF7SIJ_s

from them i can only make out by the trailers, that the gypsy kid probably isnt a werewolf as he has his own trailer called gypsy whereas the rich kid has a trailer called grisly,

and i wonder what the story is with the people that were killed, seeing as they got their own trailer, id say their families will have some kind of influence,

and i cant even begin to thing what the Blood Angel trailer is about,

JP Liz V1

Eli Roth is a producer and also directed the pilot I think

Richard Dower

this is some pretty graphic/gruesome stuff here......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNieysjSZW4

Richard Dower

True Blood meets Teen Wolf meets The Vampire Diaries + Nazi angle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvlFJmh6ktU

Basq

Looks a little silly tbh.. I'll wait for the review.

Did laugh at the trailer above..

The following TRAILER is restricted to

MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY

by Netflix, Inc.

For Mild Fornication, Fellatio, Heavy Cocaine Use, Lesbian Necrophilia, Violent Hemorrhaging

Just a normal night in my house..

Mr E

Basq wrote: »

Lesbian Necrophilia

I'm pretty open-minded, but holy crap.....

Richard Dower

All 13 episodes of Hemlock Grove season 1 have now been released on Netflix

Review: http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/19/hemlock-grove-netflix-review/

McGrath5

I watched the first episode last night.

A bit strange is all I can say, a couple of gory moments in it too.

I'll give it a few more episodes before I make up my mind on this.

EyeSight

it was tough for me to watch more than 20 mins. Does it get better and less silly?
It seemed like one large mash up of cliches.

ftakeith

New Netflix tv series Hemlock Grove, is absolutely dreadful. The Eli Roth-directed drama is an almost unwatchable muddle of horror tropes and painfully creaky dialogue. The show is set in an eerie Pennsylvania town that is equal parts Twin Peaks; Twilight’sForks, Washington; and Buffy the Vampire Slayer’s Sunnydale. The brutal murder of a high school student puts the entire town on edge, particularly since it appears that she was ripped apart by a wild animal while en route to a lesbian encounter with her teacher. Two suspects in her killing quickly emerge: Peter Rumancek (Terra Nova’s Landon Liboiron), a Gypsy whom the local kids believe to be a werewolf because of his “quite excessive body hair,” and cherub-faced teenage playboy Roman Godfrey (Bill Skarsgård), who isn’t a werewolf but is ... something else.
I’ll be honest: Peter is a werewolf, though he doesn’t really appear to have too much excessive body hair, so the fact that the local kids make this deductive leap is surprising. Roman’s family seems to own most of the town, and the dour scion appears to exhibit some preternatural abilities of his own, but it’s not clear what exactly he is (a vampire?), other than that he has a fascination with blood, particularly during sex, and has some sort of hypnotic or suggestive abilities. Together, the unlikely pair set out to catch whatever it is that is viciously disemboweling women in the town.

Roman’s mother, Olivia, played by Famke Janssen as though she is channeling Madeleine Stowe’s Victoria Grayson through a hazy, upside-down kaleidoscope, is some sort of supernatural creature as well, her darkness symbolized by her haughty indifference, cut-glass English accent, and penchant for wearing black lingerie. Roman’s disfigured sister, Shelley (Nicole Boivin), is about seven feet tall, with half of her face, with its unblinking and enormous black pupil and boil-like complexion, hidden behind a wall of dark hair. Did I mention that Shelley speaks through an electronic device and wears large gauzy mittens? And that her father believed her to be some sort of demon spawn—and killed himself? Elsewhere, Roman’s cousin Letha (Penelope Mitchell) believes she was impregnated by an angel.

These are but a few of the plotlines covered in the first few episodes, which set up some sort of apocalyptic event that will unfold over the course of the series. Good versus evil, light versus dark, a snake eats its own tail, ad infinitum. The Godfrey clan owns some sort of advanced medical-research company, and every time a scene is set within the research complex—which looks like a cross between a bank and a Manhattan luxury-hotel skyscraper—the momentum goes from merely plodding to deathly tedious. Local teens indulge in sex and drugs, tripping over dialogue that no person outside of a badly scripted horror movie would ever utter. The bodies—and gore—pile up.

I applaud Netflix for wanting to get into the genre programming business, particularly as the broadcast networks haven’t had much luck in that department lately; devotees of science-fiction television know that cable is where it’s at, and the insane success of AMC’s The Walking Dead and FX’s American Horror Story has proven that there is a healthy appetite for stories and plots that aren’t about doctors, lawyers, or cops. But Hemlock Grove does not feel like a step in the right direction.

Additionally, for a series that reportedly cost $45 million to produce, Hemlock Grovefeels awfully cheap, particularly once you get past the quick-cut ricochets between candy-colored sunshine and the hostile gloom of the nighttime scenes. Still, a special-effect-laden sequence in the second episode, in which Peter transforms into a werewolf in front of Roman and his mother (Lili Taylor), is nicely done and surprisingly gruesome with its approach to how his inner wolf emerges from his body. (The wolf itself, however, is less Wolfman and more man’s best friend.)

However, what all of that money has gone to—clearly not dialogue coaches, as the accents exhibited by the cast are all over the place, or script doctors—is unclear from the first few episodes I watched. Despite the aforementioned special effects, there’s a distinct flimsiness to the production (that continual close-up of a wolf’s eye is cringe inducing) and a sense that the world it is depicting is less than grounded in anything resembling reality. (Even without looking, one can tell that this was shot in Toronto.)

But production values are a minor quibble when looking at a show as nonsensical and inane as this one. The wooden quality of several of the actors (Janssen, most egregiously) and the strident shrillness of much of the writing allows this already plodding production to wander into the territory of the laughably bad. Horror aficionados may lap this up, but for me, Hemlock Grove is about as appealing as curdled milk.

Richard Dower

Excellent review, many thanks
A webrip of the first episode is out there....

titan18

ftakeith wrote: »

New Netflix tv series Hemlock Grove, is absolutely dreadful. The Eli Roth-directed drama is an almost unwatchable muddle of horror tropes and painfully creaky dialogue. The show is set in an eerie Pennsylvania town that is equal parts Twin Peaks; Twilight’sForks, Washington; and Buffy the Vampire Slayer’s Sunnydale. The brutal murder of a high school student puts the entire town on edge, particularly since it appears that she was ripped apart by a wild animal while en route to a lesbian encounter with her teacher. Two suspects in her killing quickly emerge: Peter Rumancek (Terra Nova’s Landon Liboiron), a Gypsy whom the local kids believe to be a werewolf because of his “quite excessive body hair,” and cherub-faced teenage playboy Roman Godfrey (Bill Skarsgård), who isn’t a werewolf but is ... something else.
I’ll be honest: Peter is a werewolf, though he doesn’t really appear to have too much excessive body hair, so the fact that the local kids make this deductive leap is surprising. Roman’s family seems to own most of the town, and the dour scion appears to exhibit some preternatural abilities of his own, but it’s not clear what exactly he is (a vampire?), other than that he has a fascination with blood, particularly during sex, and has some sort of hypnotic or suggestive abilities. Together, the unlikely pair set out to catch whatever it is that is viciously disemboweling women in the town.

Roman’s mother, Olivia, played by Famke Janssen as though she is channeling Madeleine Stowe’s Victoria Grayson through a hazy, upside-down kaleidoscope, is some sort of supernatural creature as well, her darkness symbolized by her haughty indifference, cut-glass English accent, and penchant for wearing black lingerie. Roman’s disfigured sister, Shelley (Nicole Boivin), is about seven feet tall, with half of her face, with its unblinking and enormous black pupil and boil-like complexion, hidden behind a wall of dark hair. Did I mention that Shelley speaks through an electronic device and wears large gauzy mittens? And that her father believed her to be some sort of demon spawn—and killed himself? Elsewhere, Roman’s cousin Letha (Penelope Mitchell) believes she was impregnated by an angel.

These are but a few of the plotlines covered in the first few episodes, which set up some sort of apocalyptic event that will unfold over the course of the series. Good versus evil, light versus dark, a snake eats its own tail, ad infinitum. The Godfrey clan owns some sort of advanced medical-research company, and every time a scene is set within the research complex—which looks like a cross between a bank and a Manhattan luxury-hotel skyscraper—the momentum goes from merely plodding to deathly tedious. Local teens indulge in sex and drugs, tripping over dialogue that no person outside of a badly scripted horror movie would ever utter. The bodies—and gore—pile up.

I applaud Netflix for wanting to get into the genre programming business, particularly as the broadcast networks haven’t had much luck in that department lately; devotees of science-fiction television know that cable is where it’s at, and the insane success of AMC’s The Walking Dead and FX’s American Horror Story has proven that there is a healthy appetite for stories and plots that aren’t about doctors, lawyers, or cops. But Hemlock Grove does not feel like a step in the right direction.

Additionally, for a series that reportedly cost $45 million to produce, Hemlock Grovefeels awfully cheap, particularly once you get past the quick-cut ricochets between candy-colored sunshine and the hostile gloom of the nighttime scenes. Still, a special-effect-laden sequence in the second episode, in which Peter transforms into a werewolf in front of Roman and his mother (Lili Taylor), is nicely done and surprisingly gruesome with its approach to how his inner wolf emerges from his body. (The wolf itself, however, is less Wolfman and more man’s best friend.)

However, what all of that money has gone to—clearly not dialogue coaches, as the accents exhibited by the cast are all over the place, or script doctors—is unclear from the first few episodes I watched. Despite the aforementioned special effects, there’s a distinct flimsiness to the production (that continual close-up of a wolf’s eye is cringe inducing) and a sense that the world it is depicting is less than grounded in anything resembling reality. (Even without looking, one can tell that this was shot in Toronto.)

But production values are a minor quibble when looking at a show as nonsensical and inane as this one. The wooden quality of several of the actors (Janssen, most egregiously) and the strident shrillness of much of the writing allows this already plodding production to wander into the territory of the laughably bad. Horror aficionados may lap this up, but for me, Hemlock Grove is about as appealing as curdled milk.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/19/hemlock-grove-netflix-s-latest-original-show-is-scary-bad.html

You should link where you take articles from.

killbillvol2

I watched the first episode, pretty awful. I decided to give it a chance though and tried to watch the second. I couldn't get past 20 minutes. Utter sh1te. It's all over the place and absolutely none of the cast can act.

Ciaran_B

The AV Club were equally scathing.

I watched the first ep. and I thought it was pretty poor. I'll watch 1 more then decide on the remainder.

Antar Bolaeisk

I made it as far as the third episode, willing to give it a shot considering the previous excellence of House of Cards but this just fell flat for me, the plot just seemed completely scattershot. Looks like I'm not going to make it to the lesbian necrophilia.

titan18

On the second atm, and whilst the acting and dialogue are pretty bad. Just for that werewolf transformation, I'll keep going with it. That was quite nicely done imo

Simi

I got through the whole thing. Don't know why, I just felt compelled to keep going!

It's really not worth it. It's just terrible! I mean there are moments where there are glimmers of what it hoped to be, some (incredibly rare) witty dialogue, a moment of intrigue, but those moments are few and far between.

The script is a mash of cliches and is borderline nonsensical at times. The author also seems to have a disturbing hatred for women.

By the end of the season, not one major female character is still alive, and most have been killed in a brutal and pointless fashion. (Some may be coming back from the dead in the future but for the moment they're dead.) There is also a completely unneccesary rape scene. I mean I'll buy that he needed to take out his anger, but come on! She was willing to go as far as being tied up but that apparently wasn't good enough, he still had to turn her over and force himself on her?

The whole thing is farcical at best, a misogynists wet dream at worst.

Mr Freeze

Have watched about 5 episodes, definitely agree about the acting, its mostly terrible.

I think if this was on TV and I if I was watching it weekly, I wouldn't have watched more than an episode or 2, but since all episodes are available now, I seem to be sticking with it, I have nothing else to watch clearly.

I think there are just so many silly plot lines all over the place, I am just watching to see if anything gets explained.

Richard Dower

titan18 wrote: »

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/19/hemlock-grove-netflix-s-latest-original-show-is-scary-bad.html

You should link where you take articles from.

Aye....i thought he wrote the review himself :mad:

Richard Dower

Critics might hate it, but Netflix are saying its got more views then critical darling House Of Cards.....so.............

http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/netflix-hemlock-grove-more-early-viewers-house-cards/

Richard Dower

A webrip of episodes 1-13 are out there.

Dymo

I watched the whole thing on Netflicks in two days, I think the reviews are a bit harsh on the show, but maybe that's because I watched one show after another and can pass over a bad episode more easier. It was a bit cheesy that they went for the TrueBlood, twilight, werewolf

vampire

type storylines. I'd even say that they went for a bit of Lost with there suspence and not evolving the story line as quickly as I would want.

Spoiler alert below
Over all I'd give it a 6/7 out of 10 and may watch the next season if there is one but what the hell why did they

kill off some of the main characters, (sorry for not knowing there names)the mother, that doctor, that girl that was the warwolf, the pregnant girl, jeez it's like they know there not getting a second season so just wanted to go out with a bang.

And I didn't like the Dr. Norman Godfrey character, bit of a crappy actor with a bad accent.

Corkfeen

Richard Dower wrote: »

Critics might hate it, but Netflix are saying its got more views then critical darling House Of Cards.....so.............

http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/netflix-hemlock-grove-more-early-viewers-house-cards/

Richard you really have to realise that viewing figures is not a representation of quality......

Richard Dower

Corkfeen wrote: »

Richard you really have to realise that viewing figures is not a representation of quality......

I keep telling people....ratings = renewal!

don ramo

Richard Dower wrote: »

I keep telling people....ratings = renewal!

no richard, were talking about Quality, not renewal figures, ive seen plenty of high quality shows get canceled, and quality doesnt equate to numbers, 3 of the best shows currently in production are game of thrones, homeland and breaking bad, and none of them pull in more than 7 million viewers an episode, hell breaking bad is considered the best show by an extremely large group of people, yet pulls in 3 million viewers, the lowest of the 3,

explain that

Barna77

Watched the 1st episode the other. So bad, but the bad type that doesn't get good....

titan18

Kinda average, but that might only be cos it's a type of show I'd be interested in anyway. If that was some police drama with that standard of acting and dialogue, I doubt I'd watch 10 minutes of it.

It has some potential from a plot point of view, but everything about it's execution is awful. I'd probably watch a second season of it anyway, with the way Netflix release it all at once. If it was a weekly show, with some of the huge breaks that happen, there's no chance I'd stick with it.

Guru

Have you actually watched Hemlock Grove ? This review has been copied and pasted from a US website! The article was written by Jace Lacob, the deputy West Coast bureau chief and television critic for The Daily Beast and Newsweek.

Guru

Richard Dower wrote: »

Excellent review, many thanks
A webrip of the first episode is out there....

This review has been copied and pasted from a US website! The article was written by Jace Lacob, the deputy West Coast bureau chief and television critic for The Daily Beast and Newsweek.

Potential-Monke

don ramo wrote: »

no richard, were talking about Quality, not renewal figures, ive seen plenty of high quality shows get canceled, and quality doesnt equate to numbers, 3 of the best shows currently in production are game of thrones, homeland and breaking bad, and none of them pull in more than 7 million viewers an episode, hell breaking bad is considered the best show by an extremely large group of people, yet pulls in 3 million viewers, the lowest of the 3,

explain that

Because to the average viewer (read: mostly idiots brainwashed by Hollywood fanfare), Breaking Bad is too... how do i say this without offending someone... pretentious? (I may not have used the word correctly, but it's the only one coming to mind!) Now, don't get me wrong, i'm a fan of Breaking Bad, but it started so slowly for me, and only really got proper interesting in the last couple of seasons. And that is why i believe that it doesn't get ratings like other, less quality shows do. Maybe intelligent is the word i'm looking for.

Anyway, Hemlock Grove. I wanted to give up about half way through, it just labors on and on, and nothing really happens until Episode 11/12. Terrible acting aside (although i did like Janke's performance, cool and calculated), it has still a lot of unanswered questions, probably in the hopes that should a second season be made it will draw back the viewers to get those answers. Particularly,

what was with Shellys glowing face? I know she was brought back to life by Dr. Price using, probably, something to do with that aurorabora thingy, but it's not explained why she glows.

Not a great show by any accounts, but still a better love story than Twilight.