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Case 1394 with loader- any good

  • 05-03-2013 10:44pm
    #1
    locky76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭


    A local garage has a case 1394 with a loader for sale, it's a bit tatty but some TLC (& shillings) should bring it around...
    Are they any good as a tractor?
    I'd be shaking a bit of articficial, running a 7 foot mower and feeding in the winter.


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  • #2
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Have had one here for years, great workhorse, ours had a loader on it for the 1st few years,was the main tractor and got plenty of abuse, in and out of the pits all winter etc. When we went 4wd we swapped over the loader, but the case is still used for all the slurry (only a 1100gls tanker in fairness), fertilizer spreading etc etc all the time. Very little to go wrong with them, parts are cheap as chips and plenty in the scrapyards and a good few enthusiastic DB mechanics around who are very reasonably priced if you need work done.

    They are all 25yrs old by now, so the usual applies, avoid if its totally clapped out, high hours etc, enough clean ones around for cheap money. I wouldn't be too pushed if only the bodywork is tatty, they all suffered from bodywork rot, but only superficial.


  • #3
    locky76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭locky76


    Cheers Timmaay, what sort of price range would i be looking at?
    I talked to the previous owner and he said it is a fine machine and the only reason he traded was that his bales of silage were in a field and the 2WD wasn't able for the going...
    Timmaay wrote: »
    Have had one here for years, great workhorse, ours had a loader on it for the 1st few years,was the main tractor and got plenty of abuse, in and out of the pits all winter etc. When we went 4wd we swapped over the loader, but the case is still used for all the slurry (only a 1100gls tanker in fairness), fertilizer spreading etc etc all the time. Very little to go wrong with them, parts are cheap as chips and plenty in the scrapyards and a good few enthusiastic DB mechanics around who are very reasonably priced if you need work done.

    They are all 25yrs old by now, so the usual applies, avoid if its totally clapped out, high hours etc, enough clean ones around for cheap money. I wouldn't be too pushed if only the bodywork is tatty, they all suffered from bodywork rot, but only superficial.


  • #4
    mikeoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭mikeoh


    locky76 wrote: »
    A local garage has a case 1394 with a loader for sale, it's a bit tatty but some TLC (& shillings) should bring it around...
    Are they any good as a tractor?
    I'd be shaking a bit of articficial, running a 7 foot mower and feeding in the winter.
    Have one ere, a great little thing......got the loan of neighbours 7" disc mover a few years back but it was too much for it , broke PTO shaft clean off...........I not a fan of front loader on 2wd.........they very light in front I do a lot of wheelies with big bales!!!!!....saying all that I wouldn't part with it


  • #5
    locky76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭locky76


    Bought her yesterday for €4,250, happy out, local davie brown expert is going to give it a bit of TLC for a few days up to my budget of €1,000.


  • #6
    td5man
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    locky76 wrote: »
    Bought her yesterday for €4,250, happy out, local davie brown expert is going to give it a bit of TLC for a few days up to my budget of €1,000.
    Any pics? DB fan here


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  • #7
    blue5000
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    locky76 wrote: »
    Bought her yesterday for €4,250, happy out, local davie brown expert is going to give it a bit of TLC for a few days up to my budget of €1,000.

    Best of luck, is it a black or red engine? Still a few in this neck of the woods (Borrisokane).

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #8
    locky76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭locky76


    td5man wrote: »
    Any pics? DB fan here
    none at the moment I'm afraid, he took it down off donedeal yesterday, I'll stick a few up in a fortnight when I get her home...


  • #9
    locky76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭locky76


    blue5000 wrote: »

    Best of luck, is it a black or red engine? Still a few in this neck of the woods (Borrisokane).
    A black engine, is that good or bad?
    A mate of mine informed me that I'll be the sixth man with a case within a half mile of each other, I never realised they were so popular.


  • #10
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Locky, I wouldn't advise lifting silage with the front loader. It would be fine for hay or straw bales though. I've a DB995 and this year, I made up a weight box for the front of it. I've about 200kg weight in it and I can lift a fusion bale on the back now, no bother. Without the weight box, I needed the loader on, to stop it rising up.
    You'll find with the loader on a 2 wheel drive, that the front wheel bearings will go a lot on them. Keep a set as a spare and learn how to change them. I've been caught out with them and always when you're busy like bringing in bales.


  • #11
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Locky

    Do you need the front loader? By the sounds of it the tractor isn't suited to it. If you sold it the proceeds could go towards a mower ;-)

    I've a MF165 and it's enough for what I need. I get a lad with front loader at bale stacking time. They're stacked 3 high. 165 is fine at feeding time. Just reverse in, take out bottom one and the to rows topple down.


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  • #12
    locky76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭locky76


    Cheers pakalasa for the tip about the front bearings. I had a 4610 up until now for lifting the bales of silage, I get my contractor to draw them in so I only really lift them down during the winter with the loader and lift them in with a bale spike and hydraulic top link
    pakalasa wrote: »
    Locky, I wouldn't advise lifting silage with the front loader. It would be fine for hay or straw bales though. I've a DB995 and this year, I made up a weight box for the front of it. I've about 200kg weight in it and I can lift a fusion bale on the back now, no bother. Without the weight box, I needed the loader on, to stop it rising up.
    You'll find with the loader on a 2 wheel drive, that the front wheel bearings will go a lot on them. Keep a set as a spare and learn how to change them. I've been caught out with them and always when you're busy like bringing in bales.


  • #13
    Bean_Flicker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Bean_Flicker


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Locky, I wouldn't advise lifting silage with the front loader. It would be fine for hay or straw bales though. I've a DB995 and this year, I made up a weight box for the front of it. I've about 200kg weight in it and I can lift a fusion bale on the back now, no bother. Without the weight box, I needed the loader on, to stop it rising up.
    You'll find with the loader on a 2 wheel drive, that the front wheel bearings will go a lot on them. Keep a set as a spare and learn how to change them. I've been caught out with them and always when you're busy like bringing in bales.

    I know of an acquaintance of mine who lifts silage bales with a MF 165 and Front Loader, granted he has another bale on the back and the bales are dropped in the yard, but still it is able to put the bales up three high.

    They are not McHale bales but still from a Krone roundpack bales so I'd imagine they are still at least 700kg.


  • #14
    blue5000
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    locky76 wrote: »
    A black engine, is that good or bad?
    A mate of mine informed me that I'll be the sixth man with a case within a half mile of each other, I never realised they were so popular.

    Black engines were later, probably from 1984/5 onwards. Not sure what year the bonnets changed from white to red, maybe 1987.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #15
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    We have a 996 with a power loader and lifting bales of silage is no bother. Loading them onto trailers or feeding she is at et leisure. Can't understand why someone would say your brown isn't suitable.
    Make a good weight for the back, keep steering well greased and tyres pumped, go easy if You have a bale at full height.

    Stick up some photos when you have her home.


  • #16
    td5man
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    bbam wrote: »
    We have a 996 with a power loader and lifting bales of silage is no bother. Loading them onto trailers or feeding she is at et leisure. Can't understand why someone would say your brown isn't suitable.
    Make a good weight for the back, keep steering well greased and tyres pumped, go easy if You have a bale at full height.

    Stick up some photos when you have her home.
    The 1394 has the transverse steering ram so it should be well able for the loader.


  • #17
    Timmaay
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    td5man wrote: »
    The 1394 has the transverse steering ram so it should be well able for the loader.

    1394s had uprated front axles also! We had a 1390 with a loader on it years back, that use to go through front axles like they were cheese! Ya got other problems if your silage bales weight anymore than 700kg (ie too wet and probably piss poor quality). Assuming you're using a normal bale spike and not a shear grab (which itself adds 3/400kg to the front end), the 2wd will handle them fine one ya put some weight on the back.


  • #18
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Well, we tried lifting silage bales with the loader on our DB995 and it didn't work. We strained the loader and kept damaging bearings etc.


  • #19
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Well, we tried lifting silage bales with the loader on our DB995 and it didn't work. We strained the loader and kept damaging bearings etc.

    That's strange.
    There's no difference loader wise between the 995 & 996 .
    Our 996 has been handling silage bales for 15+ years.
    We changed wheel bearings this year for The first time and a steering arm.


  • #20
    td5man
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    bbam wrote: »

    That's strange.
    There's no difference loader wise between the 995 & 996 .
    Our 996 has been handling silage bales for 15+ years.
    We changed wheel bearings this year for The first time and a steering arm.
    We had an 885 with a 3'6'' shear grab for a good few years .
    Youll have to join davidbrownireland.com now


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