Area boundaries

littleredspot

Does anyone know where you can find a map showing the boundaries of the different areas in Dublin? Not the postal codes but the areas, eg Drumcondra, Phibsborough

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BeerNut

There aren't really any official boundaries of these areas. It's often a matter of some debate.

P_1

Weren't all the boundaries derived from the various parishes that were served by each church?

As BeerNut said, makes for some interesting debate at times

Gumbo

Weren't all the boundaries derived from the various parishes that were served by each church?

All OSi digital maps that i have access to here have parish boundaries marked on them alright, so maybe that has something to do with it.

littleredspot

I know that when it comes to valuing houses, people get very caught up in what the area is called, but I assume that somebody somewhere has an actual map which is recognised by most services, An Post etc.

I remember a debate a few years ago regarding a new development between Malahide and Swords. The developer was claiming Malahide but the council insisted it was Swords so they had to change their advertising.

I can't see the parish boundaries on the OSI website map Kceire, any idea where I could see the ones that you're seeing?

BeerNut

littleredspot wrote: »

I assume that somebody somewhere has an actual map which is recognised by most services, An Post etc.

No need. An Post has its numerical boundaries, the phone companies define areas by exchanges, estate agents often have a very creative approach to boundaries, and as mentioned the churches have their parish boundaries. There'll be some overlap, but none of these correspond exactly to the areas people use in everyday speech.

Cienciano

As beernut said, the postal boundaries are definite, but placenames aren't. That's how estate agents become creative. Lots of Finglas and even Ballymun has become Glasnevin, Fairview has become Clontarf, Half of Blanch is now Castleknock
Some OS maps have the placenames written on them, but it's pretty much a map of dublin with the text in general area, no borders at all.
I was looking for a map of the postal district borders before (online) but had no joy.

BeerNut

Cienciano wrote: »

I was looking for a map of the postal district borders before (online) but had no joy.

Junk mail to the rescue! An Post has a very detailed map here. The areas are subdivided but if you zoom in to Dublin and mouseover the map, the postal code shows in the zone number under Zone Details.

Gumbo

littleredspot wrote: »

I can't see the parish boundaries on the OSI website map Kceire, any idea where I could see the ones that you're seeing?

I have access to the whole city on digital cad files directly from OSI. So the parish boundaries are a layer within the drawing. I'm not sure if they are on the site at all tbh.

OldGoat

BeerNut wrote: »

Junk mail to the rescue! An Post has a very detailed map here. The areas are subdivided but if you zoom in to Dublin and mouseover the map, the postal code shows in the zone number under Zone Details.

Interesting map. I always thought my postal address was Artane, D5. Now it turns out that there is no Artane postal area but I'm really in Edenmore instead.
Wonder if thats gonna affect my property value in the household tax scheme?

littleredspot

Thanks for all the ideas, it seems a bit mad that there isn't a definitive map. I would imagine that rural townlands are clearly marked

BeerNut wrote: »

No need. An Post has its numerical boundaries, the phone companies define areas by exchanges, estate agents often have a very creative approach to boundaries, and as mentioned the churches have their parish boundaries. There'll be some overlap, but none of these correspond exactly to the areas people use in everyday speech.

Unfortunately the exchange and parish name aren't necessarily related to the area name. The An Post numbering system isn't related to townland boundaries, and as you say estate agents aren't to be trusted.

kceire wrote: »

I have access to the whole city on digital cad files directly from OSI. So the parish boundaries are a layer within the drawing. I'm not sure if they are on the site at all tbh.

I can get the parish boundaries to come up on the old maps, but they're fairly obscure.

The junk mail map gets very strange near the city center, I'm not sure how it's split up.

The area I'm particularly interested in is North Strand. It melts into East Wall and Ballybough (which is rapidly turning into "Clonliffe" itself) There's a fairly clear boundary with Fairview, the Tolka, to the North East. To the South East the D3-D1 boundary is the canal, but the North Strand name seems to occasionally cross it.

BeerNut

You won't find a definitive answer anywhere. You're looking for something that only exists in people's heads, and which varies from head to head.

Esel

I know someone living in what was known as Finglas East. First they referred to it as Glasnevin North; now they say Glasnevin....

I always thought that when the residents of Ballymun Avenue and Ballymun Park had the names changed to Glasnevin Avenue and Park that the residents of the Ballymun flats should have insisted that their area be renamed Glasnevin Heights.

BeerNut

I was amused but not really surprised to find that, until quite recently, Terenure Road West was called Kimmage Road East

Big Nasty

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand the reason for confusion. They're called POST codes. If An Post say you live in D6 then you live in D6. What the parish or estate agents may think / say is irrelevant.