Reduce Car Tax

homingbird

It can be done with the help of the nct. All lower emission cars get the lower rate car tax. So if you are driving a high emission car & get it converted to lpg or veg oil you should get the cheap tax. It would create a lot of new jobs a bit of pressure on our td's would save a lot of expensive cars from the crusher. I saw a nice A8 that has been lying idle for a long time which is a shame.

Supergurrier

Alanstrainor

What?

paulmclaughlin

homingbird wrote: »

It would create a lot of new jobs a bit of pressure on our td's would save a lot of expensive cars from the crusher.

How does it do any of those things?

triple-M

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

How does it do any of those things?

step 1)convert cars to lpg
step 2)???????
step 3)Profit

Mint Sauce

Yeah, then just wait on the government to heap tax on something else, ie, vegetable oil.

homingbird

If the road tax system was changed to allow all low emission cars cheap tax lpg & veg oil cars are close to 0% emission which would be seen in the nct & give you road tax of less than 200 euro instead of over 700 euro.

colm_mcm

Some light reading

From Wikipedia:

An emission test cycle is a protocol contained in an emission standard to allow repeatable and comparable measurement of exhaust emissions for different engines or vehicles. Test cycles specify the specific conditions under which the engine or vehicle is operated during the emission test. There are many different test cycles issued by various national and international governments and working groups.[1] Specified parameters in a test cycle include a range of operating temperature, speed, and load. Ideally these are specified so as to accurately and realistically represent the range of conditions under which the vehicle or engine will be operated in actual use. Because it is impractical to test an engine or vehicle under every possible combination of speed, load, and temperature, this may not actually be the case.[2] Vehicle and engine manufacturers may exploit the limited number of test conditions in the cycle by programming their engine management systems to control emissions to regulated levels at the specific test points contained in the cycle, but create a great deal more pollution under conditions experienced in real operation but not represented in the test cycle.


Then there's the fact that the government don't actually want it to be cheaper for you to tax your car.

Then there's the fact that newer common rail diesels don't like veg

Then there's the whole thing that the government can't even come up with a fairer cc based taxed system for pre 08 cars, not to mind a radical revenue losing overhaul like you're suggesting.

Then there's the whole reason I own an S type that cost less than my TV. If the tax was cheaper then people would want them, then they go up in price.


The fact that you think LPG and veg oil cars are nearly 0% emissions suggests you should do some research.

dgt

If it was reduced people would still complain

Plus if people started to use more veg oil as a propellant, I couldn't have a nice breakfast or bag of chips on the cheap

snaps

Supergurrier wrote: »

its the way people are feeling. 700€ a year tax on vw diesel, then the tax on fuel, now all these toll roads, its beyond a joke now.
eventually, even electric cars will soon be taxed, nothing is free from over taxing now.
So many people not taxing their cars now, surely there's less being taken in on the tax take now than if car tax was lower. Can't speak about city motorists, but the amount of 2012 tax discs still being displayed in the country here is unreal.

Seweryn

dgt wrote: »

Plus if people started to use more veg oil as a propellant, I couldn't have a nice breakfast or bag of chips on the cheap

And there are enough hungry children on the planet :mad:.

CiniO

snaps wrote: »

its the way people are feeling. 700€ a year tax on vw diesel, then the tax on fuel, now all these toll roads, its beyond a joke now.
eventually, even electric cars will soon be taxed, nothing is free from over taxing now.
So many people not taxing their cars now, surely there's less being taken in on the tax take now than if car tax was lower. Can't speak about city motorists, but the amount of 2012 tax discs still being displayed in the country here is unreal.

People don't tax their cars on the country side, because there is no enforcement.
I haven't encountered a checkpoint in my region (within 30 mile radius) since I live here, which is over 6 years. I could have avoid paying motortax for those 6 years without any consequences.

Supergurrier

snaps wrote: »

its the way people are feeling. 700€ a year tax on vw diesel, then the tax on fuel, now all these toll roads, its beyond a joke now.
eventually, even electric cars will soon be taxed, nothing is free from over taxing now.
So many people not taxing their cars now, surely there's less being taken in on the tax take now than if car tax was lower. Can't speak about city motorists, but the amount of 2012 tax discs still being displayed in the country here is unreal.

I pay 360 every 3 months to tax my car, its not gonna change though no matter how many threads are made, Irish people are all talk no action

Mr Benevolent

CiniO wrote: »

People don't tax their cars on the country side, because there is no enforcement.
I haven't encountered a checkpoint in my region (within 30 mile radius) since I live here, which is over 6 years. I could have avoid paying motortax for those 6 years without any consequences.

There's barely any enforcement in the cities either since the Traffic Corps was cut back and apps like Waze came in. Actually it's got me very seriously thinking that I don't need to waste my hard earned cash*

*on toffee popcorn.

Suasdaguna1

I know a guy with a Citreon c5 auto with 191kgs of fumes. That 1kg extra costs 700euro p/a extra in car tax. Tax authorities don't want to know about ecu mods etc to reduce co2. It's all based on what figs the manufacturers give to the eu and that's it in stone.