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Former FF councillor charged in trying to have three officials Whacked

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  • #2
    charlemont
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    He is away with the birds, But your right if it was SF the media and the threads here would be hopping.


  • #3
    Victor
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    Dob74 wrote: »
    Press pretty quite about this.
    It's been much commented on for the last week. They were waiting for him to be charged.


  • #4
    Zombrex
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    Dob74 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-city-councillor-gary-oflynn-charged-with-soliciting-garda-murder-29107632.html



    Press pretty quite about this.
    If Sinn Fein were involved I am sure it would be a front page story.

    Er, this has been in the news for days, it is just now that he can be named because he was formally charged.

    Pretty bad for FF, again it makes the party look like it is full of financial cowboys who do anything (in this case even murder) to hide their money from the tax man.


  • #5
    ArmaniJeanss
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    Dob74 wrote: »
    Press pretty quite about this.
    If Sinn Fein were involved I am sure it would be a front page story.
    Looks like power can make people go mad.
    charlemont wrote: »
    He is away with the birds, But your right if it was SF the media and the threads here would be hopping.

    It's now a court case, so regardless of whether he is FF, SF or ULA all that the media can and will report is the bare bones of what happens in court.
    No salacious front page gossip at all, and threads on here it will be correctly locked.


  • #6
    raymon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    When I heard the level of arrogance and moral deficit in this case I thought straight away it has to be FF .

    Even before the suspect was named.

    Just another reason I don't vote for FF .

    Rotten to the very core ........ Allegedly

    IBTL


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  • #7
    walshb
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    This is off the charts crazy. How on earth did this guy think he could pull this off. If guilty he deserves a serious stretch behind bars. Though, I believe 10 years is the maximum. What a horrible plan to hatch. 3 peoples lives he wanted to end, and all because they were an inconvenience for him?


  • #8
    Mr.Micro
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    walshb wrote: »
    This is off the charts crazy. How on earth did this guy think he could pull this off. If guilty he deserves a serious stretch behind bars. Though, I believe 10 years is the maximum. What a horrible plan to hatch. 3 peoples lives he wanted to end, and all because they were an inconvenience for him?

    I possibly think that the man is not mentally well.


  • #9
    GRMA
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    I possibly think that the man is not mentally well.
    Dont underestimate the arrogance of Fianna Fáilers.

    This is the family who have passed around that council seat after all.


  • #10
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    GRMA wrote: »
    Dont underestimate the arrogance of Fianna Fáilers.

    This is the family who have passed around that council seat after all.

    Yes, but anybody can become mentally ill, and such a malady cannot be ruled out at this stage as to the alleged actions of the man.


  • #11
    OCorcrainn
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    I possibly think that the man is not mentally well.

    He was also arrested for posession of a knife in a nightclub after he gave the staff abuse, threw a drink over a girl's head, told the staff and Gardaí that he was a solicitor and that they can't touch him whilst giving them abuse. Nothing wrong with him he is just a scumbag.


    The Flynn's (especially Noel) are arrogant, corrupt and delusional Fianna Fáil clowns (just like Bertie Ahern, Brian Cowen, Micheal Martin & co) who helped run this country into the ground and continue to prevent Ireland from ever really progressing, I can never understand why people vote for them.


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  • #12
    raymon
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    Sounds like traditional FF arrogance and greed at the root of this.

    A FFer is about to be exposed and allegedly does everything in his power to cling on.

    Maybe he has mental issues on top of the underlying FF condition.


  • #13
    Sierra Oscar
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    I think it is important to highlight that the person in question is no longer a member of Fianna Fáil, nor has he been for some time now.

    I would also be reluctant to cast judgement on this case so quickly, especially if you are not aware of the mental well being of the individual in question. In fact considering that the individual is no longer in public life, nor is he a member of any political party, I am not sure of the relevance of this thread.


  • #14
    OCorcrainn
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    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I think it is important to highlight that the person in question is no longer a member of Fianna Fáil, nor has he been for some time now.

    I would also be reluctant to cast judgement on this case so quickly, especially if you are not aware of the mental well being of the individual in question. In fact considering that the individual is no longer in public life, nor is he a member of any political party, I am not sure of the relevance of this thread.

    Don't make me laugh, if it was a former member of Sinn Féin you would be saying the opposite. You say he is a former Fianna Fáil politician which I already know but what evidence is there that he actually left Fianna Fáil?


  • #15
    raymon
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    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I think it is important to highlight that the person in question is no longer a member of Fianna Fáil, nor has he been for some time now.

    I would also be reluctant to cast judgement on this case so quickly, especially if you are not aware of the mental well being of the individual in question. In fact considering that the individual is no longer in public life, nor is he a member of any political party, I am not sure of the relevance of this thread.

    Hi Sierra , when did he leave the party?


  • #16
    Conmaicne Mara
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    It's not often I think something is outrageous, but I remember thinking as much when I first heard about this on the radio. How on earth did he think he could get away with something like that. He either needs to be locked up for his own good or for the good of others.


  • #17
    Sierra Oscar
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    OCorcrainn wrote: »
    Don't make me laugh, if it was a former member of Sinn Féin you would be saying the opposite. You say he is a former Fianna Fáil politician which I already know but what evidence is there that he actually left Fianna Fáil?

    Well I havent commented on Sinn Féin and the topic of members being arrested in light of a story which broke in recent weeks, but I may as well now that you have brought it up.

    Do the Sinn Féin supporters on this forum have a view to express in regards the recent arrest of the prominent Sinn Féin member, Sean Hughes? He is a well known strategist for SF, and can be seen in Leinster House regularly meeting with Sinn Féin deputies alongside members of the political staff team. He was seen only a few weeks ago in Leinster House under such circumstances.

    Sean Hughes was recently arrested for membership of a subversive group, whose core aim is to undermine this state. He is also aiding the PSNI into the actual murder investigation of Robert McCartney.

    So, in light of these revelations can an SF member perhaps provide insight as to whether Sean Hughes will continue to act as a senior strategist for the party? Furthermore should we be expecting the arrest of any further high ranking members for being members of a subversive group, or indeed to aid any murder inquires?

    Republican charged over IRA investigation following murder
    raymon wrote: »
    Hi Sierra , when did he leave the party?

    Not sure, but at the time of his appearance in court in 2012 the media were at that stage reporting that he was a former member of FF.


  • #18
    OCorcrainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭OCorcrainn


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    Do the Sinn Féin supporters on this forum have a view to express in regards the recent arrest of the prominent Sinn Féin member, Sean Hughes?.

    Until he is convicted with anything I have nothing to say on the matter.
    So, in light of these revelations can an SF member perhaps provide insight as to whether Sean Hughes will continue to act as a senior strategist for the party? Furthermore should we be expecting the arrest of any further high ranking members for being members of a subversive group, or indeed to aid any murder inquires?

    No idea.


  • #19
    charlemont
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    I possibly think that the man is not mentally well.

    That's true but it should be obvious as to how this has come about. Reckon myself he will serve any sentence in Dundrum.


  • #20
    Victor
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    I possibly think that the man is not mentally well.
    Is there any evidence of this?


  • #21
    Robbo
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    OCorcrainn wrote: »
    Don't make me laugh, if it was a former member of Sinn Féin you would be saying the opposite. You say he is a former Fianna Fáil politician which I already know but what evidence is there that he actually left Fianna Fáil?
    Are you proposing some form of Fianna Fail decomissioning process with independent international observers?


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  • #22
    OCorcrainn
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    Robbo wrote: »
    Are you proposing some form of Fianna Fail decomissioning process with independent international observers?

    Seeming as they helped arm the Provisional IRA, sure why not? ;)


  • #23
    goose2005
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    charlemont wrote: »
    He is away with the birds, But your right if it was SF the media and the threads here would be hopping.

    I assumed it was SF, until I noticed that the Sindo didn't have ten pages devoted to it with lots of hints.


  • #24
    Mr.Micro
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    Victor wrote: »
    Is there any evidence of this?

    Well for someone to attempt such an alleged outlandish crime one could perhaps assume that the accused was mentally ill, so I presume the Court will ask for psychiatric reports?


  • #25
    Victor
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Well for someone to attempt such an alleged outlandish crime one could perhaps assume that the accused was mentally ill,
    Or criminally inclined and/or stupid.
    so I presume the Court will ask for psychiatric reports?
    It is for the defence to offer a psychiatric defence.


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