Red squirrel numbers on the way back

yubabill1

There was a poster in my local supermarket a couple of years ago, looking for info on squirrel sightings.
Talked to a lady doing a project on Pine Martens predating grey squirrels. Didn't believe it at the time, but looks like I was wrong.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/red-squirrels-make-comeback-as-pine-martens-prey-on-greys-29106337.html

Johnny max

yubabill1 wrote: »

There was a poster in my local supermarket a couple of years ago, looking for info on squirrel sightings.
Talked to a lady doing a project on Pine Martens predating grey squirrels. Didn't believe it at the time, but looks like I was wrong.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/red-squirrels-make-comeback-as-pine-martens-prey-on-greys-29106337.html[/QUOTE]
Hi Lad
So the p marten takes greys but not reds :rolleyes::rolleyes:

dodderangler

Johnny max wrote: »

yubabill1 wrote: »

There was a poster in my local supermarket a couple of years ago, looking for info on squirrel sightings.
Talked to a lady doing a project on Pine Martens predating grey squirrels. Didn't believe it at the time, but looks like I was wrong.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/red-squirrels-make-comeback-as-pine-martens-prey-on-greys-29106337.html[/QUOTE]
Hi Lad
So the p marten takes greys but not reds :rolleyes::rolleyes:

And Foxes only kill male rabbits

Only ever seen a red squirrel and it was on the dodder
Let the pine martins kill as many greys as they want
Horrible fcukers

Tawny Owl

Johnny max wrote: »

yubabill1 wrote: »

There was a poster in my local supermarket a couple of years ago, looking for info on squirrel sightings.
Talked to a lady doing a project on Pine Martens predating grey squirrels. Didn't believe it at the time, but looks like I was wrong.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/red-squirrels-make-comeback-as-pine-martens-prey-on-greys-29106337.html[/QUOTE]
Hi Lad
So the p marten takes greys but not reds :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yes Johnny max as greys feed on the ground and are more likly to be caught by Pine marten and Reds feed from tree to tree and would spend most of there time in the canopys and are faster but will take a Red if it got one:D

wildfowler94

Watching the programme on rte now. I think its ridiculous releasing greys back into the wild after they've trapped, why if there are reds in the area are they releasing their predators back out? science my arse.

natdog

Just after seen that myself taught it was the most ridiculous thing ever in line with animal rights style bullsh1t.
Probably bordering on illegal.

dodderangler

wildfowler94 wrote: »

Watching the programme on rte now. I think its ridiculous releasing greys back into the wild after they've trapped, why if there are reds in the area are they releasing their predators back out? science my arse.

You'll never understand them
It's like them trappin a fox giving trouble and releasing it somewhere else to be trouble for someone else
Sometimes I wonder how people like that get paid

wildfowler94

Afaik in England its now illegal to release any grey caught. Im all for research into wildlife but its already known the damaging greys do to reds and even song and game birds so releasing them is bull****.

Johnny max

What type of trap was yurwan using to catch the greys with

dodderangler

Good female red tail hawk will take care of them greys

Tawny Owl

wildfowler94 wrote: »

Watching the programme on rte now. I think its ridiculous releasing greys back into the wild after they've trapped, why if there are reds in the area are they releasing their predators back out? science my arse.

I just watched the whole programme I thought it was very good as I am into programmes like this but for the life of me I know the Girl was trapping greys I dont understand why we are releasing a species not native to Ireland back into the wild and as quoted was just after having young I thought we are trying to rid this species to get our Reds back to high numbers as I said before start in the Pheonix Park trap and distroy greys.

wildfowler94

She was using a modified mink trap

Tawny Owl

wildfowler94 wrote: »

She was using a modified mink trap

Agree looked like a small nest box on the rear did you see her locking the trap out after she had finished I think she resets them again later that evening and checks them again next day early at dawn and so another day begins:D

Rosahane

I can't see the comments on the Independent article now.
Last comment must have upset them ��

yubabill1

Rosahane wrote: »

I can't see the comments on the Independent article now.
Last comment must have upset them ��

Ok the comments on HAI's letter were pulled after about 24hrs too. must be automatic?

Rosahane

Rosahane wrote: »

I can't see the comments on the Independent article now.
Last comment must have upset them ��

Back now, conspiracy theory anyone?

Rosahane

yubabill1 wrote: »

Ok the comments on HAI's letter were pulled after about 24hrs too. must be automatic?

No, they don't normally hide the comments, they just disable new comments after 24 hours which is fair enough.

dodderangler

I know what I would've done when the grey squirrel was put into the bag

mathepac

This all old news. RTE and the Indo need to keep up. This is like a manufatured story with RTE and the Indo feeding off each other.

Surprised posters in this forum got suckered into rebroadcasting old rebroadcasts of old news. Dinosaur meat dressed as lamb.

Johnny max

dodderangler wrote: »

I know what I would've done when the grey squirrel was put into the bag

Bring the little divel home and into the pan:p:p

clivej

The rise in the Red population also has something to do with the Red's being lighter, than the Grays, and can go out on the thinner branches to escape or jump to the next tree where the Martin can't get them.

mathepac

I can't seem to find the threads we had on the go last year (2 years ago?) about the same topic (reds vs greys vs pine martens) Can anyone supply links?

Some sections of the meeja must be desperate, they're robbing 2 year old threads now not just current ones

Eddie B

clivej wrote: »

The rise in the Red population also has something to do with the Red's being lighter, than the Grays, and can go out on the thinner branches to escape or jump to the next tree where the Martin can't get them.

In my opinion the Marten takes the Squirrel's at night when their resting, more so than in daylight whilst on the ground feeding! Maybe the Reds rest on thinner branches, and so less of them are taken! The Pine Marten also take roosting birds in the same manner!

yubabill1

We have had a surge in Pine martens around here in the last 10 years. They were a mythical creature in the 70's, but now I have seen them out in daylight and even had one about 10 or 20 feet away from me a couple of years ago. Swarming with them at night.
Great to see IMHO.

wildfowler94

nice too see....but is a pain when the start at your poults or clockers