Running - Best runners on the market?

ordinarysoap

Whats everyone's opinion on the best runners on the market at the moment for distance runners? realise its all preference but heard these were good
http://www.asics.ie/running/products/gel-kayano-men/

Cheers,

sconhome

ordinarysoap wrote: »

Whats everyone's opinion on the best runners on the market at the moment for distance runners? realise its all preference but heard these were good
http://www.asics.ie/running/products/gel-kayano-men/

Cheers,

No such thing exists unfortunately.

The Kayano is a good shoe. If you are heavy and overpronate a bit the Kayano could be a great shoe. If you are light and suppinate or have a neutral foot the Kayano could destroy you.

ordinarysoap

thanks for that - i do not overpronate as my current running shoe would suggest. What other shoes are out there that are worth considering? i am a neutral runner as i would say

ordinarysoap

ordinarysoap wrote: »

thanks for that - i do not overpronate as my current running shoe would suggest. What other shoes are out there that are worth considering? i am a neutral runner as i would say

there are 100's of models of runners... even within neutral range of things. would need to provide more detail.

max price willing to pay?
mileage per week you intend to do?
surface you'll be running on?
want really lightweight runners or not that important/

dekbhoy

I spoke to guys in 2 elvery shops and 1 in runways and they all recommended Brooks. Personally i wore Asics(nimbus13) for last marathon and found them a fantastic shoe for comfort. On taking the advice from experts after more gait analysis i bought a pair of Brooks Trance 11 that i intended running next marathon from runways but so far have found them to be a very hard shoe, in fact i am getting some pains in ankles and achiles after using them. My advice would be to go someone who really knows what they are talking about explain to them your goals preferences etc and go from there. Will give the brooks another few miles to see if they soften up but chances are i will be returning to asics. I weigh about 80kg and run around 40-50 km per week.

sconhome

dekbhoy wrote: »

I spoke to guys in 2 elvery shops and 1 in runways and they all recommended Brooks. Personally i wore Asics(nimbus13) for last marathon and found them a fantastic shoe for comfort. On taking the advice from experts after more gait analysis i bought a pair of Brooks Trance 11 that i intended running next marathon from runways but so far have found them to be a very hard shoe, in fact i am getting some pains in ankles and achiles after using them. My advice would be to go someone who really knows what they are talking about explain to them your goals preferences etc and go from there. Will give the brooks another few miles to see if they soften up but chances are i will be returning to asics. I weigh about 80kg and run around 40-50 km per week.

You've gone from a neutral shoe with no running problems (?) to a guidance shoe which is giving you issues. It has absolutely nothing to do with brand, it is all about the mechanics and getting that to compliment you.

Brand is secondary.

digger2d2

Elvery's must be on a Brucie Brooks Bonus..... I was in there the other day and a guy was advising a middle aged woman about the three pairs in front of her (looked like she'd had her gait analysis done)..... "Adidas are the biggest distributors in the country but Brooks are the best runner in the world, they are wider fitting so are perfect for a wider foot''..... ''but I have a narrow foot'' replied the lady, ''Oh, yes, but the footbed offers so much comfort'' !??

dekbhoy

amphkingwest wrote: »

You've gone from a neutral shoe with no running problems (?) to a guidance shoe which is giving you issues. It has absolutely nothing to do with brand, it is all about the mechanics and getting that to compliment you.

Brand is secondary.

Point taken but sales staff explained a lot more technology and expense are put into brooks running shoe. Should i go and get gait analysis done again or should i persist with brooks for another while as maybe my feet are adjusting slightly. i have noticed wear on old running shoes on outside of sole, which would suggest i am indeed pronating.

HelenAnne

dekbhoy wrote: »

I spoke to guys in 2 elvery shops and 1 in runways and they all recommended Brooks. Personally i wore Asics(nimbus13) for last marathon and found them a fantastic shoe for comfort. On taking the advice from experts after more gait analysis i bought a pair of Brooks Trance 11 that i intended running next marathon from runways but so far have found them to be a very hard shoe, in fact i am getting some pains in ankles and achiles after using them. My advice would be to go someone who really knows what they are talking about explain to them your goals preferences etc and go from there. Will give the brooks another few miles to see if they soften up but chances are i will be returning to asics. I weigh about 80kg and run around 40-50 km per week.

And to prove that everyone's different, I was happy & problem free in the Nimbus12, but since I changed to the Brooks Ghost (bought both shoes on advice from Amphibian King) I've been even happier. They seem to have more room for my toes!
I'd really recommend all the branches of Ampibian King, they even let you go outside for a bit of a run in the shoes to see how they feel before you buy.

sconhome

dekbhoy wrote: »

Point taken but sales staff explained a lot more technology and expense are put into brooks running shoe.

Sorry, this is junk. Yes, Brooks are a specialist brand and focus on some key product areas over their competitors. But so too are Saucony, Mizuno, Addidas, Asics etc all of the companies invest heavily in their technoogical developments.

Look how much Adidas must have spent on their recent Boost launch.

The shoe will suit your foot or it won't, and I think this Brooks shoe doesn't suit you. Possibly the Glycerin or Ghost may have been better recommendation, based on your history in the Nimbus

dekbhoy wrote: »

Should i go and get gait analysis done again or should i persist with brooks for another while as maybe my feet are adjusting slightly. i have noticed wear on old running shoes on outside of sole, which would suggest i am indeed pronating.

If it puts your mind at ease do get checked again. I would be questioning the shoe choice as you shouldn't have new problems.

Wear on the outside would indicate an underpronating foot or a shoe with too much correction. Again, highlighting the liklihood that you are a neutral foot.

Shoe wear should be even across the foot and with two hot spots at the heel and the ball / toe area where the most abrasive action and highest energy forces are generated at landing and push off.

SWL

dekbhoy wrote: »

I spoke to guys in 2 elvery shops and 1 in runways and they all recommended Brooks. Personally i wore Asics(nimbus13) for last marathon and found them a fantastic shoe for comfort. On taking the advice from experts after more gait analysis i bought a pair of Brooks Trance 11 that i intended running next marathon from runways but so far have found them to be a very hard shoe, in fact i am getting some pains in ankles and achiles after using them. My advice would be to go someone who really knows what they are talking about explain to them your goals preferences etc and go from there. Will give the brooks another few miles to see if they soften up but chances are i will be returning to asics. I weigh about 80kg and run around 40-50 km per week.

Went from Nimbus 13 to brooks it was like running in a pair of dance shoes, wanted to bin them but having paid 130 euro I couldn't afford too. The Brooks are very hard got used to them but can't wait until they are replaced.

There was nothing wrong with nimbus, I just wanted to change to a new shoe. if I could get something inbetween it would be perfect, not as soft as the nimbus but not as hard as the Brooks

sconhome

SWL wrote: »

Went from Nimbus 13 to brooks it was like running in a pair of dance shoes, wanted to bin them but having paid 130 euro I couldn't afford too. The Brooks are very hard got used to them but can't wait until they are replaced.

There was nothing wrong with nimbus, I just wanted to change to a new shoe. if I could get something inbetween it would be perfect, not as soft as the nimbus but not as hard as the Brooks

What model Brooks have you changed to? Sounds really strange because Brooks are only supposed to be stocked by people who understand the shoe & who it is suitable for.

The majority of people I find that are changing from Asics Nimbus to the Brooks Glycerin (€130 shoe) love the similarity of the comfort, fit and cushioning that they are used to in the Nimbus but are saving €30 into the bargain too.

rasher_m

amphkingwest wrote: »

Wear on the outside would indicate an underpronating foot or a shoe with too much correction. Again, highlighting the liklihood that you are a neutral foot.

Shoe wear should be even across the foot and with two hot spots at the heel and the ball / toe area where the most abrasive action and highest energy forces are generated at landing and push off.

Hi, can I hop in here and ask Amphibian King a question. I got gait analysis done last year and was wearing a shoe I was happy in. My physio noticed I have a lot hard skin on the outside of my foot like I'm leaning towards the right. Could this be cause I'm in the wrong shoe?

SWL

amphkingwest wrote: »

What model Brooks have you changed to? Sounds really strange because Brooks are only supposed to be stocked by people who understand the shoe & who it is suitable for.

The majority of people I find that are changing from Asics Nimbus to the Brooks Glycerin (€130 shoe) love the similarity of the comfort, fit and cushioning that they are used to in the Nimbus but are saving €30 into the bargain too.

It was the Brooks Glycerin (bought from your good self), I fancied a change had 4 pairs of Nimbus, I ran in them before buying and thought they were perfect, not to soft not too hard, but after a week I was banjaxed from them, they are not all bad in races when my mind is on other things they are fine and they give a smooth ride, but they are 8 months old now so time to change, recommendations are welcome

sconhome

SWL wrote: »

It was the Brooks Glycerin (bought from your good self), I fancied a change had 4 pairs of Nimbus, I ran in them before buying and thought they were perfect, not to soft not too hard, but after a week I was banjaxed from them, they are not all bad in races when my mind is on other things they are fine and they give a smooth ride, but they are 8 months old now so time to change, recommendations are welcome

Model is spot on for the change. In what way were they hard relative to he Nimbus? In general the Glycerin is a plush shoe with the smooth outsole (as you've noticed) and the DNA gel gives better response underfoot.

Re suggestions, based on your experience I'd be considering the Nimbus again, but, need to try it on as its changed this season too.

Just to highlight something else, if you ever have a problem with one of our recommendations you have 28 days to let us know and we will exchange shoes for you. AK want you to be happy running.

sconhome

rasher_m wrote: »

Hi, can I hop in here and ask Amphibian King a question. I got gait analysis done last year and was wearing a shoe I was happy in. My physio noticed I have a lot hard skin on the outside of my foot like I'm leaning towards the right. Could this be cause I'm in the wrong shoe?

I'm no chiropodist but possibly increased activity leading to toughening of the skin? It'd be normal enough and you'd expect some thickened skin in contact areas.

SWL

amphkingwest wrote: »

Model is spot on for the change. In what way were they hard relative to he Nimbus? In general the Glycerin is a plush shoe with the smooth outsole (as you've noticed) and the DNA gel gives better response underfoot.

Re suggestions, based on your experience I'd be considering the Nimbus again, but, need to try it on as its changed this season too.

Just to highlight something else, if you ever have a problem with one of our recommendations you have 28 days to let us know and we will exchange shoes for you. AK want you to be happy running.

Thanks for that, good to know about the 28 days policy. In fairness the decision was all mine, I heard about the Brooks and went in with the intention of buying them, the lads in the shop were as helpful as usual so I have no complaints with AK

iliketorun

Hi, I got a pair of Kayano Asics over 10 months ago. I've used them more on cross training machines than actual running so thats why they are still functional. They don't look or feel worn down but I'd need an expert opinion. If I brought them into the shop do you think they could look at them? Is it really true that someone could tell what your running gait is like by looking at how your runners have worn down? and that they could recommend suitable ones? Would be such good help. My runners are too big for me so if I want to be a successful runner I need new runners asap.
Amphiking, I was concerned when I saw your post that the Kayanos can destroy you if you are light. I'm very light(just over 130lbs) so maybe that's why I've had so many problems the past year. It would certainly explain much of the source of my recurring injuries, I hope .
Look forward to hearing what you have to say thanks

Dtp79

ordinarysoap wrote: »

thanks for that - i do not overpronate as my current running shoe would suggest. What other shoes are out there that are worth considering? i am a neutral runner as i would say

What does overpronate neutral mean ?

rasher_m

amphkingwest wrote: »

I'm no chiropodist but possibly increased activity leading to toughening of the skin? It'd be normal enough and you'd expect some thickened skin in contact areas.

Thanks for that, I just thought if theres hard skin on the side of my foot and not on the centre, heel or up near the pads then I must be running on the side of my foot a bit.

sconhome

amphkingwest wrote: »

No such thing exists unfortunately.

The Kayano is a good shoe. If you are heavy and overpronate a bit the Kayano could be a great shoe. If you are light and suppinate or have a neutral foot the Kayano could destroy you.

iliketorun wrote: »

Hi, I got a pair of Kayano Asics over 10 months ago. I've used them more on cross training machines than actual running so thats why they are still functional. They don't look or feel worn down but I'd need an expert opinion. If I brought them into the shop do you think they could look at them? Is it really true that someone could tell what your running gait is like by looking at how your runners have worn down? and that they could recommend suitable ones? Would be such good help. My runners are too big for me so if I want to be a successful runner I need new runners asap.
Amphiking, I was concerned when I saw your post that the Kayanos can destroy you if you are light. I'm very light(just over 130lbs) so maybe that's why I've had so many problems the past year. It would certainly explain much of the source of my recurring injuries, I hope .
Look forward to hearing what you have to say thanks

To be fair I was using the reference to the Kayano in connection with the previous post. It is true, if the footwear is not suited to you it will cause problems, it is not exclusively the Kayano or any other guidance shoe for that matter.

The analysis and looking at your shoes all has to be taken into consideration, its very hard to conclusively say you are this or that type of foot without going through a process that works to identify your gait type. A lot of people reckon the wet foot test is a good indicator, I think it's a guide, but you need to see someone running to get a proper idea of their gait.

A good shop should be able to advise you based on your footwear history, activity, injury history, running goals as to which shoe is best suited to you.

brando1980

hey

ran 2 marathons in nimbus 13's, looking for a lighter racing style shoe for my next marathon, any recommendations people??

average_runner

Any idea where i get a pair of Ghost 5 at a good price online?

Thanks

NoGutsNoGlory

any recommendation for a flatter runner - heel rise between 6 - 9mm ..

TFBubendorfer

NoGutsNoGlory wrote: »

any recommendation for a flatter runner - heel rise between 6 - 9mm ..

Brooks Green Silence are excellent with a heel drop of 8mm - unfortunately they are no longer being produced (and I'm not sharing my stash ) but can still be ordered from a few online stores.

antomagoo

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Brooks Green Silence are excellent with a heel drop of 8mm - unfortunately they are no longer being produced (and I'm not sharing my stash ) but can still be ordered from a few online stores.

Some sizes avialable here http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/BRO551/brooks-green-silence-racing-running-shoes/

no side show bob sizes though

JohnnyCrash

@ Amphkingwest- would I have any probs going from a Lunarglide 4 to Pegs? Im a neutral runner.LG 4's don't give me any probs but wouldn't mind a change.Suffer from pf on and off,hence going for extra cushioning.

NoGutsNoGlory

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Brooks Green Silence are excellent with a heel drop of 8mm - unfortunately they are no longer being produced (and I'm not sharing my stash ) but can still be ordered from a few online stores.

thanks thomas . they look good and have received great reviews. i take a size 9.. can only see a size 9.5 on the web.. (all the normal sizes sold out) are they small fitting ??? have you any idea what their replacement was ? thanks p

TFBubendorfer

I always buy my runners a size bigger than my road shoes - I wear size 8 in the office and my runners are usually size 9; the Brooks fit just fine, just like almost all other shoes.

No idea on the successors though; I stocked up when I heard they were being phased out, so that problem won't affect me for about another year.

dev123

The dream is over. After 4 pairs of green silence and many miles with colour schemes way above my ability I need to find a similar runner. I bought a pair of hattori for a bargain out of interest but I can't see them being used for long runs. Any suggestions? Kinvaras?

sconhome

NoGutsNoGlory wrote: »

thanks thomas . they look good and have received great reviews. i take a size 9.. can only see a size 9.5 on the web.. (all the normal sizes sold out) are they small fitting ??? have you any idea what their replacement was ? thanks p

Brooks Pure Drift and Pure Flow are the closest to the Green Silence.

The Pure Connect is more of a racing shoe than a replacement for the Green Silence.