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self build lean two.......

  • 02-03-2013 11:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭


    Thinking of self building a lean two for general purposes....thinking 3 bays maybe 12 x 12 bays so 36 x 12ft with 12ft max height & a 5ft overhang to the front.

    Anyway i'm well able to weld it up myself and erect girders ect. with a bit help but was wondering can the plates with predrilled holes for the top of the girders be bought ? just to ease and speed up the assembly...

    Also would u use steel or timber rafters......

    cheers...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    The most important thing before you start is to square up the building, if you fail to do this it will be a disaster. Timber purlins should do fine for that size shed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭gazahayes


    Any steel merchants should have the plates and cleats too. I'd go for 15'9 bays myself tho unless you already have 12' timbers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    gazahayes wrote: »
    Any steel merchants should have the plates and cleats too. I'd go for 15'9 bays myself tho unless you already have 12' timbers

    I would go with a 15ft 9 which is a standard bay length if u could manage it instead of 12 ft. Or else go two 20ft bays. U would have more room for parking machinery etc. although u would need steel instead of timber for that length.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭crackcrack30


    Would 20ft be a stretch.....structurly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭crackcrack30


    Was goung with the 12fts as it would leave me with the possibility of blocking up one bay as a enclosed workshop /garage....

    I could go 1 x 12ft bay and 2 x 15'6.....the benifit/adaptibility of lean tows

    The shed has to be easy on the eye :rolleyes: as it will be only 60 ft from the house and visible from the road....over hang should close down the front a bit (2ft)

    Any pics of something similar .....

    cheers lads..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Would 20ft be a stretch.....structurly?


    i think that the steel purlins are fine up to 20 feet. open to correct on that by some better-informed than me on the subject.


    the advantage of 20 feet spans is a lot easier to access with tractors/mach/etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    12 x 12 would be a very small workshop. go with 16'. done right it wouldnt be an eyesore. 7x4 steel should be enough. if you price the steel work around you will find that it will probably work out cheaper to buy it than try and make it. ive tried this a lot myself and unless you can get the materials very cheap its not worth doing it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭joe man utd


    Will you be applying for planing for this shed?? I'm debating whether to apply for planning for a 5 column calving/workshop too....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Blue Holland


    Thinking of self building a lean two for general purposes....thinking 3 bays maybe 12 x 12 bays so 36 x 12ft with 12ft max height & a 5ft overhang to the front.

    Anyway i'm well able to weld it up myself and erect girders ect. with a bit help but was wondering can the plates with predrilled holes for the top of the girders be bought ? just to ease and speed up the assembly...

    Also would u use steel or timber rafters......

    cheers...

    With max height of 12ft what height will u end up at the eave with the overhang.
    Make sure to get steel work priced, like 1chippy said prob end up not been worth your while fabricating yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Blue Holland


    Will you be applying for planing for this shed?? I'm debating whether to apply for planning for a 5 column calving/workshop too....

    Will it be seen from d road, any local nuisance likely to report it, i put up 44x80 in 2011 without.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭joe man utd



    Will it be seen from d road, any local nuisance likely to report it, i put up 44x80 in 2011 without.

    Not seen From the road but I have some nuisance in neighbours that are from the city.. a right pain in the a**e. If I do get reported how much is the fine and what are the retention costs??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭crackcrack30


    Once you are a certain distance from ,the road regardless of view you don't need PP once its for agri purposes........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭ABlur


    Once you are a certain distance from ,the road regardless of view you don't need PP once its for agri purposes........
    If more than 100m from public road and from nearby houses then you dont need permission


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