Bike Crash

cassette50

Basically I crashed into the back of a car yesterday and wrote off the bike.

I presume I did some damage to the car, once the headache and pain subdue a little I hope to get in touch with the driver.

No-one witnessed the accident as far as I know..just heard the crash as I slapped off the back of the car over the roof and hit my head off the kerb (thankfully I was wearing my helmet:D). Thankfully no broken bones just some heavy bruising.

From what I've been told the driver claims I cycled straight into the car, but I'm not in the habit of flying down hills blind at speed (as it's a busy road and I was only starting my cycle).

I am generally constantly checking ahead for traffic and obstacles so I don't really take my eyes of the road. No idea what happened as I can't remember anything about the incident.

I'll post up some pictures of the bike and helmet later on.

Just wondering if anyone has any information on how to deal with this situation from past experience.

DirkVoodoo

Why didn't someone (i.e. her!) call the Gardai or an ambulance?

RobFowl

Generally if you hit another vehicle from behind it's almost always your fault. You've pretty much zero chanace of claimimg but are probably liable for the damage to the car.
If you are a CI member and were training then you have 3rd party cover.

Profiler

You should visit the doctor first (apologies if you have already done so) if only to rule out anything serious as a reason for why you have no memory.

She may have changed lanes into your path and stopped suddenly or even pulled out of a side road/drive way into your path. However if your memory of the incident is hazy or even non existent then it will be down to what independent witnesses (if there are any) say.

As mentioned before do you know if the Gardai or ambulance services called? That would be my starting point if I were you.

cassette50

The Guards were called (as far as I know) and I was brought by ambulance to the hospital.

These are the remains of the bike:

Squire G

cassette50 wrote: »

Basically I crashed into the back of a car yesterday and wrote off the bike.

I presume I did some damage to the car, once the headache and pain subdue a little I hope to get in touch with the driver.

No-one witnessed the accident as far as I know..just heard the crash as I slapped off the back of the car over the roof and hit my head off the kerb (thankfully I was wearing my helmet:D). Thankfully no broken bones just some heavy bruising.

From what I've been told the driver claims I cycled straight into the car, but I'm not in the habit of flying down hills blind at speed (as it's a busy road and I was only starting my cycle).

I am generally constantly checking ahead for traffic and obstacles so I don't really take my eyes of the road. No idea what happened as I can't remember anything about the incident.

I'll post up some pictures of the bike and helmet later on.

Just wondering if anyone has any information on how to deal with this situation from past experience.

You should be charged for this. Get off the road

TheBlaaMan

Squire G wrote: »

You should be charged for this. Get off the road

That was helpful :rolleyes:

cassette50

Squire G wrote: »

You should be charged for this. Get off the road

- Self enforced ban until the injuries heal and a new bike is sourced. Is that enough for you?

funkyjebus

Squire G wrote: »

You should be charged for this. Get off the road

Sorry, what should he be charged for? He may be liable for 3rd party damage but the notion of being prosecuted is stupid.

I hope you fell better OP and sorry for the bike
Taaramae

monkeypants

Squire G wrote: »

You should be charged for this. Get off the road

Charged for what exactly?

rollingscone

Unless there is compelling 3rd party or physical evidence OP you might have a hard time arguing your case.

My advice would be to stroll down to the accident location and go through the events to jog your memory.

Motorists frequently pull into my path either from an adjacent lane or even just sweeping to the left to undertake a car that is turning.

Think about where you were coming from, your route and your normal road position at that point.

If you are found liable and you don't have CI insurance. Check with your household insurance you may also have liability cover there.

Beasty

Squire G wrote: »

You should be charged for this. Get off the road

Troll is site-banned, so no need for anyone to respond further

Thanks

Ryder

rollingscone wrote: »

Unless there is compelling 3rd party or physical evidence OP you might have a hard time arguing your case.

My advice would be to stroll down to the accident location and go through the events to jog your memory.

Motorists frequently pull into my path either from an adjacent lane or even just sweeping to the left to undertake a car that is turning.

Think about where you were coming from, your route and your normal road position at that point.

If you are found liable and you don't have CI insurance. Check with your household insurance you may also have liability cover there.

good advice. The one time I crashed into someone else, the car had come from a sideroad, on a really wet day, directly in front of me and then stopped on a line of traffic. So worth taking a walk around to see if the same was the case (assuming you still ha e a poor memory of the event)

two wheels good

Were all the brake lights on the car working correctly?

cassette50

two wheels good wrote: »

Were all the brake lights on the car working correctly?

Honestly, I wish I could remember - still no memories of the accident. I'll visit the accident site this afternoon - hopefully jog some memories.

manwithaplan

The main thing is that you are well enough to be worrying about it. Everything else is a bonus. The car will get fixed and you will get better. Just roll with it.

Seaneh

Other (sort of) positive is that everything else on the bike looks salvageable besides the frame (and probably the fork). So it shouldn't cost you too much to get back on two wheels when you're fit and ready!
You could pick up a decent second hand frame set on adverts or the sub forum here and swap all your bits on to it, get the wheels fixed and you're good to go, no need to buy a brand new bike!

RobertFoster

You could check businesses in the area, see if they've any street facing CCTV cameras that might have picked up the incident.

cassette50

Anyone here recommend some websites that sell frames or even recommend a decent frame...I've had a look on Dolan and Planet-X but they don't seem to have many frames in stock at the moment.

Ribble seem to have some good prices - anyone used them before?

seamus

Seaneh wrote: »

Other (sort of) positive is that everything else on the bike looks salvageable besides the frame (and probably the fork). So it shouldn't cost you too much to get back on two wheels when you're fit and ready!
You could pick up a decent second hand frame set on adverts or the sub forum here and swap all your bits on to it, get the wheels fixed and you're good to go, no need to buy a brand new bike!

Although it might appear a good idea, in the interests of safety you often have no idea what kind of other impact the parts have taken. If the bike flipped (for example), and landed hard, the seatpost could be cracked. This looks like a really clean front hit where the wheel took the brunt of the collision, but without any memory of the incident there's no way of knowing exactly what happened.

I would write off the frame, fork, front wheel, stem and handlebars. Even if they look OK, it's not worth the potential disaster later on when they fail suddenly. The back end and small components are probably fine but you'd need to check each one individually for damage.

seamus

cassette50 wrote: »

Ribble seem to have some good prices - anyone used them before?

CRC have a massive clearance sale on the moment. Good opportunity to upgrade your frame at a good price.

e.g.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=90598

stripeypaint

if your frame took that much of an impact your forks would not be safe to ride on,around where the steer-tube meets the main body of the fork. front wheels usually for the metal bin aswell in this situation.

you might be best off to go down the route of a new bike and keep/sell off all the parts which you can salvage.always hands to have spare parts. that ridley yana frame above is a womens specific frame with womens specific geo so by the looks of your old bike, ie gents racer, it would be a poor investment.

Seaneh

Well if the Yana Seamus listed isn't a womans specific frame, Ridley's 2012 womens specific road frames all have a very unique cuvred top tube like on these two:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=90596

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=90597


But besides the Yana there are 7 other mens road Ridley frames sets for the same-ish price like the Tritons an Tempos which a both lovely alu frames with carbon forks.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=589&SortBy=Price

Like said in here before, the frame a fork are a write off and should be binned, the front wheel (and probably the back wheel too) need to be looked at by a local bike shop to make sure they aren't compromised and to have any spokes replaces or have the wheel re-trued if needed, the stem, bars and seat post are probably goners too, but even still he still have the full groupset, possibly both wheels, a saddle and the likes left, a few frame and fork and a new stem, bars and seat post (loads of sand hand stuff going in the adverts sub forum for good prices) and he's back on the road for a lot less than the price of a new bike of the same spec.