kitchen designer input needed

niallys

Hi,
Looking for some design help really from a professional/everyday kitchen designer. We have just got planning permission and want to settle on a design layout for our kitchen. It a large open plan area that will include an island. I can e-mail our plans rather than putting them online if anyone thinks they can help us out. Once finalised on a design/layout I can start getting some quotes. Thanks!

paddy147

niallys wrote: »

Hi,
Looking for some design help really from a professional/everyday kitchen designer. We have just got planning permission and want to settle on a design layout for our kitchen. It a large open plan area that will include an island. I can e-mail our plans rather than putting them online if anyone thinks they can help us out. Once finalised on a design/layout I can start getting some quotes. Thanks!

Any kitchen/wardrobe shop will happily design one for you for free and give you measurements and some 3D colour printouts..

In House,Tierneys,Cash n Carry Kitchens,A1 Kitchens and many many more.


Thats what i did with my kitchen design.:)

Pinky123

Hiya Nially,
If you are gonna head into showrooms to get some plans done don't tell them that you have not broken ground yet, there can be a tendency to just do up some plans and send you on your way. If they think there is a chance of a imminent sale they are more likely to put in a bit more effort to get the layout right for you.:D
Make sure to bring a wish list with you so the layout will incorporate everything you want and it will also give you a good guideline of actual costs. Most will not give you a dimension floor plan but your electrician and plumber should be able to make sure all your services are in the right place from a 3d visual. Also ask if they can email you the visuals so you can keep them on file for when you are ready to make your purchase. Don't get too caught up in trying to pick the actual door as a good layout should work with any style.

HTH

paddy147

Pinky123 wrote: »

Hiya Nially,
If you are gonna head into showrooms to get some plans done don't tell them that you have not broken ground yet, there can be a tendency to just do up some plans and send you on your way. If they think there is a chance of a imminent sale they are more likely to put in a bit more effort to get the layout right for you.:D
Make sure to bring a wish list with you so the layout will incorporate everything you want and it will also give you a good guideline of actual costs. Most will not give you a dimension floor plan but your electrician and plumber should be able to make sure all your services are in the right place from a 3d visual. Also ask if they can email you the visuals so you can keep them on file for when you are ready to make your purchase. Don't get too caught up in trying to pick the actual door as a good layout should work with any style.

HTH

Funny then that In House,Tiernys,A1 Kitchens and Cash and Carry all gave me full dimensional floorplans of the kitchen layout aswell.:)


Theres also a phrase.........."if you dont ask then you wont get".

niallys

Pinky123 wrote: »

Hiya Nially,
If you are gonna head into showrooms to get some plans done don't tell them that you have not broken ground yet, there can be a tendency to just do up some plans and send you on your way. If they think there is a chance of a imminent sale they are more likely to put in a bit more effort to get the layout right for you.:D
Make sure to bring a wish list with you so the layout will incorporate everything you want and it will also give you a good guideline of actual costs. Most will not give you a dimension floor plan but your electrician and plumber should be able to make sure all your services are in the right place from a 3d visual. Also ask if they can email you the visuals so you can keep them on file for when you are ready to make your purchase. Don't get too caught up in trying to pick the actual door as a good layout should work with any style.

HTH

Thats exactly what I was thinking. I want to get the layout nailed down now. I have a feeling and seem to find that a lot of kitchen companies just throw a layout together in 5 minutes and you may not be maximising your space to the full potential! I have a few layouts but not convinced as of yet!

paddy147

niallys wrote: »

Thats exactly what I was thinking. I want to get the layout nailed down now. I have a feeling and seem to find that a lot of kitchen companies just throw a layout together in 5 minutes and you may not be maximising your space to the full potential! I have a few layouts but not convinced as of yet!

I have to say that is Wrong..........and Im speaking from experience of dealing with alot of them on a 1st hand basis here.


How is a kitchen company meant to know what you would like and what size of space you have to work with???

Its up to you to provide exact measurements for the kitchen area and also where any windows may be located,also waste water/services location in the room where the kitchen will be installed.Also exact location of window/door opes,radiators (if any).

Oh and also exact wall/floor lengths/distances to windows/door opes and radiators


If you dont provide important information like this,then a kitchen company cant do up a propper detailed design and dimensional floorplan for you.

niallys

paddy147 wrote: »

I have to say that is Wrong..........and Im speaking from experience of dealing with alot of them on a 1st hand basis here.


How is a kitchen company meant to know what you would like and what size of space you have to work with???

Its up to you to provide exact measurements for the kitchen area and also where any windows may be located,also waste water/services location in the room where the kitchen will be installed


If you dont provide important matters like this,then a kitchen company cant do up a propper detailed design and floorplan for you.

I think you picked me up wrong paddy. Of course i provide them with measurements and a wish list. My issue is trusting if the layout they produce in the 5 minutes i am there is the best one for that particular area. By the way its a new build so no services in yet, hence why i want the optimal layout before i break ground so i will know where to put them to the inch!

paddy147

niallys wrote: »

I think you picked me up wrong paddy. Of course i provide them with measurements and a wish list. My issue is trusting if the layout they produce in the 5 minutes i am there is the best one for that particular area. By the way its a new build so no services in yet, hence why i want the optimal layout before i break ground so i will know where to put them to the inch!

I know kitchen companies tend to get some stick for not making an effort......BUT......

......The client has an obligation to provide the most accurate and exact details,so that the kitchen company can design a bespoke kitchen to suit that space and the clients wishes.




So therefor I would wait untill all services/fixings are 110% finalized and actually in place,before commiting to a specific kitchen design and layout.

Things allways gets moved around or modified in new builds.

We waited ourselfs,as both ourselves and our builder/structural engineer tweeked the original internal floorplans for the house while building was taking place.

If we had have just gone in and done up a kitchen plan based on the original floor plans,then the kitchen would not have worked,and we would have had wasted alot of money,by jumping the gun.


Remember......"all good things come to those who wait".......;)

ted1

IKEA have a great online 3d planner, use this as your template

firlodge

Mod Note: READ THE RULES

Pinky123

Nially,

It's much easier to reposition windows and doors on paper than on site

With a new build its defiantly a good idea to have your kitchen plan done before you start to build, of course you will not be placing an order with any company until walls are plastered. You then bring in your final measurements ( or a rep from the company comes out ) and the plan is adjusted to reflect any changes in measurements. If you do think about changing the internal layout then just talk to the designer to see if they will impact the kitchen plan. Any kitchen designer should be able to work from your plans and get dimensions needed to put together a realistic layout. Generally speaking if you have a timber frame structure the final dimensions should be fairly close to the plans with a bit more variance with a block build ( unless to make changes to layout that are not shown on plans).
I find that a good 1 to 2 hours is needed with a client to understand their individual requirements and to create their first initial layout.

If you do decide on a final layout early on in the build just remember to be flexible as things can come up on site that you had not anticipated and changes may need to be made.