Grammar question about the ár n-athair

kilkenny12

Just wondering about the last line, I've always known it as 'saor sin ó olc' but I'm just thinking about it now and should it not be 'saor sin ón olc'?
Go raibh maith agaibh!

byhookorbycrook

from evil as opposed to "the evil" b'fhéidír?

kilkenny12

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

from evil as opposed to "the evil" b'fhéidír?

Ah b'fhéidir go bhfuil! I thought an n should be added when the next word starts with a vowel, similar to in french. But that would change it to 'the evil', buíochas!

MathsManiac

Not as strange a suggestion as it might seem, though. Irish often has the definite article in cases like that even where English doesn't.

Tá suim agam sa Ghaeilge, (rather than "i nGaeilge")

Cá chaith tú an Nollaig, (Where did you spend Christmas? - Interestingly, Irish people sometimes say "the Christmas", even if jokingly!)

Tiomantas don cheartas, (commitment to justics)

Focal.ie gives "an mhaith agus an t-olc" for the phrase "Good and Evil".

Gumbi

MathsManiac wrote: »

Not as strange a suggestion as it might seem, though. Irish often has the definite article in cases like that even where English doesn't.

Tá suim agam sa Ghaeilge, (rather than "i nGaeilge")

Cá chaith tú an Nollaig, (Where did you spend Christmas? - Interestingly, Irish people sometimes say "the Christmas", even if jokingly!)

Tiomantas don cheartas, (commitment to justics)

Focal.ie gives "an mhaith agus an t-olc" for the phrase "Good and Evil".

Indeed. I think English would be the exception here, as it often is, not Irish (in the grand scheme of languages ).

BTW, I think it should be cár.

An gal gréine

Saor sinn....

MathsManiac

Gumbi wrote: »

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BTW, I think it should be cár.

Mea culpa.