How to abbreviate Irish Registrations

ewan whose army

Hey

I am a Brit who has moved to Ireland and I am a PPL. I am starting to fly over here (I have the charts, a club and etc) one thing is getting me, how do your abbreviate EI regs on the radio?

I know G regs abbreviate easily such as G-RATI becomes G-TI

So would EI-EDR go E-DR or EI-R

Thanks

Ewan

phonypony

Same as UK, so E-DR ( in theory; in practice anything seems to go...)

andy_g

anytime im flying say EI-CAC the twr or dublin will come back with cac.

DieselPowered

andy_g wrote: »

anytime im flying say EI-CAC the twr or dublin will come back with cac.

I've heard that too from ATC, and it just confuses pilots, the correct way is E-AC (Echo-Alpha Charlie).

Irish Steve

Depends on how busy ATC are, and how well they know the pilot or instructor.

G-AYFT the short form was officially Golf Foxtrot Tango, sometimes Foxtrot Tango, and one controller was totally happy with Fox Tango, and some of these shorter short forms were used by controllers at Dublin as well.

Simple answer is always use full call sign on first contact, and whatever the controller uses, respond with that.

On rare occasions, if another aircraft with a very similar call sign comes on air, the controller will change the short form he is using to avoid confusion, and may even revert to full call sign. I also recall on one occasion, something like Cessna Charlie Mike, and Learjet Charlie Mike, but that is non standard. Whatever avoids any risk of confusion and is the quickest to say if the frequency is busy.

If the controller continues using full call sign, it's either to ensure no risk of confusion, or he's REALLY unhappy with something you've said or done

Katunga

andy_g wrote: »

anytime im flying say EI-CAC the twr or dublin will come back with cac.

Ei-CAC Flightwise Grob was in it two weeks ago. Instructor called out EI-CAC to dublin ATC.

andy_g

Katunga wrote: »

Ei-CAC Flightwise Grob was in it two weeks ago. Instructor called out EI-CAC to dublin ATC.

In flightwise we always make initial contact with full reg and if atc abbreivate it we'll use that