URGENT HELP REQUIRED!! NCT

scholar88

I've a wheel thats borderline. I was gonna swap it with the spare wheel which is a little better but then realised ive no jack on car!? Disaster....

Should I get rid of spare wheel altogether and say i havent got one? Then there is no jack to be tested?? Or do I have to have spare wheel plus jack in car?!?

keithsfleet

Afaik you will fail with no Jack or spare wheel (including bald spare tire)

shooter88

scholar88 wrote: »

I've a wheel thats borderline. I was gonna swap it with the spare wheel which is a little better but then realised ive no jack on car!? Disaster....

Should I get rid of spare wheel altogether and say i havent got one? Then there is no jack to be tested?? Or do I have to have spare wheel plus jack in car?!?

Jacks are nit tested...you will need a spare the testers do every make of car and will know its supposed to have one..
Just put it in for test and see what happens

Cosmo K

You are not required to have a spare wheel in the car, spare wheel is not part of the test. Don't panic!

scholar88

Thats two conflicting responses I've got.... If I dont put it in I wont be tested for spare and as an added bonus it'll help with break test?! HAs anyone ever failed due to not having a spare wheel?

dahamsta

Someone has linked to the nct docs in the past, search the forum or nct site if you want proof. A spare will only be checked if it's present. Take it out and fire some tyre weld in there.

JDxtra

They test your tyres for a reason. Maybe you should consider changing your worn ones?

CiniO

scholar88 wrote: »

Thats two conflicting responses I've got.... If I dont put it in I wont be tested for spare and as an added bonus it'll help with break test?! HAs anyone ever failed due to not having a spare wheel?

How can it help with a brake test?
You mean that it will cause car to be lighter, so brake/weight ratio will be lower?

In that case it will help with front brakes efficiency, but might worse the efficiency of rear brakes.

slimjimmc

scholar88 wrote: »

Thats two conflicting responses I've got.... If I dont put it in I wont be tested for spare and as an added bonus it'll help with break test?! HAs anyone ever failed due to not having a spare wheel?

No, because neither the absence nor condition of a spare wheel is a fail item in the NCT. Only the road wheels are examined.
Even if there was a spare, you can't be failed on it's condition but you may be advised (not failed) that it needs sorting.

You could fail if the spare is in an external wheel carrier and the wheel is loose.

rebel.ranter

Here is the NCT manual. The spare wheel is only tested if it is in the car. Why do people answer questions without doing the proper checks?

Page 60 has the relevant detail:

http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf

Clairehoop

Could anyone help me with this query please

My NCT was up last may. I have not driven the car since as I was away. The car is over 10 years old. So therefore I need the nct every year.

So I booked my nct for next week. I am just wondering if I will need to backdate it. Or is there an exemption. Or will I need to get it done next week and again in may? Thanks

Stheno

Clairehoop wrote: »

Could anyone help me with this query please

My NCT was up last may. I have not driven the car since as I was away. The car is over 10 years old. So therefore I need the nct every year.

So I booked my nct for next week. I am just wondering if I will need to backdate it. Or is there an exemption. Or will I need to get it done next week and again in may? Thanks

Jesus if you did a search either here or on google, you'd have found the answer to this in the time it took you to type your query.

You can test your car up to three months in advance. So find out the exact date your NCT is due, book a test for within three months of that date, and you'll get a cert to 2014.

CiniO

Clairehoop wrote: »

Could anyone help me with this query please

My NCT was up last may. I have not driven the car since as I was away. The car is over 10 years old. So therefore I need the nct every year.

So I booked my nct for next week. I am just wondering if I will need to backdate it. Or is there an exemption. Or will I need to get it done next week and again in may? Thanks

Once it pass the test, you will get a cert valid to May 2014, so no worries,.

Clairehoop

Thanks , I presumed it would need to be put through twice or backdated.

jd80

Clairehoop wrote: »

Thanks , I presumed it would need to be put through twice or backdated.

You will have to pay twice though - once for test due last May and now this one

CiniO

Clairehoop wrote: »

Thanks , I presumed it would need to be put through twice or backdated.

No such thing as backdating NCT.
NCT is valid up to next due date, but can be done 3 months in advance, and then it's valid to subsequent due date.
That's exactly your case, as it's less than 3 months to due date, so your cert will be valid to subsequent due date (May 2014).

Stheno

jd80 wrote: »

You will have to pay twice though - once for test due last May and now this one

No they won't.

CiniO

jd80 wrote: »

You will have to pay twice though - once for test due last May and now this one

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Clairehoop

Could be worse i suppose. Thanks

jd80

Stheno wrote: »

No they won't.

Why not?

CiniO

jd80 wrote: »

Why not?

We can ask the same - why yes?


Because that's the rules.
NCT is not a tax so no need to backdate it or pay arrears.

You just pay for service (checking roadworthiness of your car).
It can be done 3 months in advance and that's exactly what he is doing.

If you skipped a whole period, that is non of anyone's business.

Stheno

jd80 wrote: »

Why not?

Because they are getting the car tested once, i.e. using the facilities, and staff for one test.

There is no mention anywhere in the NCT rules about paying for tests that haven't been done, which makes perfect sense. You can test the car three months in advance of it's due date and get a test valid to the following year/two years.

You'd only have to pay twice if you tested more than three months in advance of the due date.

Clairehoop

I did google it but couldn't find any relevant information.

Since I have had no nct cert for 10 months I presumed I needed to complete it for the previous year and the coming year.

jd80

Stheno wrote: »

Because they are getting the car tested once, i.e. using the facilities, and staff for one test.

There is no mention anywhere in the NCT rules about paying for tests that haven't been done, which makes perfect sense. You can test the car three months in advance of it's due date and get a test valid to the following year/two years.

You'd only have to pay twice if you tested more than three months in advance of the due date.

A fair point.

However, I am somewhat sceptical that NCT/Government would not require payment from the last due date.

I shall have to research further

Or the op can inform us when he/she completes the test - which is when?

CiniO

jd80 wrote: »

A fair point.

However, I am somewhat sceptical that NCT/Government would not require payment from the last due date.

I shall have to research further

Take a look here:

(2) A test certificate which is issued—

(a) not more than 180 days before the first test due date, or

(b) not more than 90 days before a test due date other than the first test due date,

continues in force until the subsequent test due date.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/si/0567.html

This generally explains it all.

Stheno

Clairehoop wrote: »

I did google it but couldn't find any relevant information.

Since I have had no nct cert for 10 months I presumed I needed to complete it for the previous year and the coming year.

From the NCT website

4. How do I know when my car is due to be tested?

All cars should be tested on or before the anniversary date of first registration of the car in the country of origin (see note regarding imported cars below). There is no link with motor tax or insurance expiry date.

PLEASE NOTE: NCTS can issue your certificate up to six months early for a first time NCT and three months early for subsequent NCT tests. For example, a car was first registered on the 5th January 2009. The car was due for its NCT on the 5th January 2013, the car is brought for its NCT on the 26th October 2012 and it passes. An NCT Certificate is received with an expiry date of 4th January 2015

Googling NCT ten months out of date gives loads of info

I think I may do an NCT mega info thread after insurance, these questions are two a penny here.

Stheno

jd80 wrote: »

A fair point.

However, I am somewhat sceptical that NCT/Government would not require payment from the last due date.

I shall have to research further

Or the op can inform us when he/she completes the test - which is when?

I tested my car in 2011 when it was over a year out of date (it was over ten years old) and got a cert for 15 months and only paid the one test fee.

jd80

Stheno wrote: »

I tested my car in 2011 when it was over a year out of date (it was over ten years old) and got a cert for 15 months and only paid the one test fee.

excellent

jd80

Any truth in post #5 of this thread re free NCT?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79844605

EDIT. NCT customer charter - looks to be the case!