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Mama

  • 28-02-2013 3:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭


    Went to see this the other night,its a great film.Plenty of seat jumping and scares.The actress that plays Lily is brilliant.No gore but really scary


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I've been meaning to go see this. These de Toro produced horrors are usually pretty good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    Complete bag of shite that made no sense, nothing new or creative in it, most the "scarey bits" are in the trailer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    These de Toro produced horrors are usually pretty good.

    Worst of the worst marketing gimmicks!

    Having his name on the poster like that with 'Pan's Laybrinth'. If the film is good enough it should stand on its own legs, not looking for a shoe-in.

    Surprised he lets his name get thrown around so easily, it's damaging to his own directing reputation in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Is this a remake?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    No i dont think so


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    A feature length version of the directors own short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    went to see this last night - would have enjoyed it more if not for the ignorant tools sitting near us laughing amongst themselves for the majority of the movie. jerks.

    Anywho...

    Thought the movie was ok, but the ending was terrible imo.
    So the doctor dealing with them is missing/dead. The aunt reporting them for child abuse is missing/dead and one of the two children is missing/dead. Yep - that is going to be an easy one to explain away to police/public/media. All tied up in a nice little bow that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    It really looks like a "Boo!" movie, the only scary bits are when something jumps out at you or whatever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Thought it was an excellent movie, easily the best horror I've seen in the cinema in a very long time. Very unsettling in spots, and although I wasn't enthusiastic about the ending either, overall it was a great experience and there were plenty of screams from the audience.

    I don't think it's fair to just assume Del Toro is just 'throwing his name around' without having even seen the film - critical response to the film is strong. Would be an 8/10 from me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Decuc500 wrote: »
    A feature length version of the directors own short.

    Ah ok, I knew I'd seen something similar online


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    I don't think it's fair to just assume Del Toro is just 'throwing his name around' without having even seen the film - critical response to the film is strong. Would be an 8/10 from me.

    But I think it is fair because i'm not assuming.

    I saw his name 'plain as day' on the poster along with 'Pans Labyrinth'. It's misleading. He didn't direct it, he is only an executive producer.

    So based on the evidence, he is throwing his name around to brand a lesser project that he doesn't really have much input. It's not a Del Toro movie.

    Why would I need to see the movie to figure that out?


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FlashD wrote: »

    But I think it is fair because i'm not assuming.

    I saw his name 'plain as day' on the poster along with 'Pans Labyrinth'. It's misleading. He didn't direct it, he is only an executive producer.

    So based on the evidence, he is throwing his name around to brand a lesser project that he doesn't really have much input. It's not a Del Toro movie.

    Why would I need to see the movie to figure that out?

    Del Toro has nurtured a number of projects by up and coming directors and for many of them were it not for Del Toro they would never have gotten the chance at making a feature. His name on advertising materials is there to get your attention and while many will be misled and believe it to be a Del Toro directed project most won't. It's also a common practice, Quentin Tarantino presents 'Hero' and a lot of projects will have "From the producer of insert massively successful franchise" across the top of the poster.

    As for the claim you make that he has little input. I don't believe that, Del Toro is very hands on in a aspects of any production and as such he isn't somebody who sits back and waits for the money to come in. Would not surprise me in the least to learn thay he was routinely on set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Utter ****e. Yeah it has one moment in the film where it is genuinely creepy and unique (child playing with impossibly large shadow) but its generally just your usual 'trying to be creepy' horror film tripe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ShM


    Wouldn't recommend it, it's in an awful film, not even scary! The ad makes it look alot better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    crap. its like a cross between the grudge and paranormal activity. so cliched in places. the cgi was a bit dodgy in places too. wierd ending too. best bits in trailer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    Disappointed to read the reviews here, was looking forward to this one, had high hopes!


    Way too many of this type of horror being trashed out these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    Disappointed to read the reviews here, was looking forward to this one, had high hopes!


    Way too many of this type of horror being trashed out these days


    dont let our reviews make your mind up for you, go see and decide for yourself. u never know u might like it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    hadepsx wrote: »
    dont let our reviews make your mind up for you, go see and decide for yourself. u never know u might like it


    True, but I've been down this road before and it usually ends up the same! Its hard to get excited for a horror film these days, so many of them are being tagged 'the best horror in ages' which in itself says a lot!

    So when you read initial reviews like these it will pretty much only go one way ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    agreed, they cant seem to make them like they used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    hadepsx wrote: »
    agreed, they cant seem to make them like they used to.

    The last one that really got to me was the Ring, yet a lot of people didn't take to it at all, scared the crap out of me but sure there you go!


    But a good horror is hard to find these days, I really wish they would ditch the whole 'best horror in ages' crap though, it gets boring. Even 'The House at the end of the street' was tagged the same in an ad :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    I liked it. The ending wasn't great but it was unsettling, enjoyable creepy horror overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    very slow and dragging in to start with, few slightly jumpy moments, then a wierd slightly unexpected ending, I give it a big MEH tbh!
    Still didnt stop it from getting into my head though when I got home after it for a little bit just with the GGIed bits where shes coming towards the screen :rolleyes::o:pac: That kinda stuff always seems to get me :o, wasnt scary at all in the cinema though for what I was expecting, dissapointing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    Well I'm a big girls blouse and it frightened the ****e outta me hehe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Thought it was pretty good as well, although it went downhill in the last act. Not sure what the point of having the aunt character was either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    As for the claim you make that he has little input. I don't believe that, Del Toro is very hands on in a aspects of any production and as such he isn't somebody who sits back and waits for the money to come in. Would not surprise me in the least to learn thay he was routinely on set.

    Well if that is the case, then 'Mama', according to the reviews, is a sad representation of his skill as an executive producer.

    I have a feeling this film will get some proportion of an audience because of his attached name and 'Pans Labyrinth'. Many movie goer will leave with that name slightly damaged in marketing terms.

    This will have a knock on effect when it comes to rolling out his own directorial projects. Hellboy 3 anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭the_barfly1


    Saw this film on Saturday night.
    I laughed. A lot.
    The plot was amongst the most ridiculous that I've come across in years, so much so, that I felt the need to post on boards about it!
    How on earth
    did it take FIVE years to find a car that crashed off the road IN SNOW, leaving visible tracks?
    And its good to know that two young girls
    can survive easily in a run-down cabin with no running water or heat in the wilderness for five years on a diet solely consisting of berries that are delivered by a an ethereal devil-mammy, who looked absolutely ridiculous in all her CGI glory
    There's so much ridiculousness that I'd actually be typing all night to cover it all!
    I also thought it was funny that they consistently had daylight beaming in through the windows of the house at night-time.
    Serious let-down as a horror film, but great if you're up for a Leave your brain at the door, good old fashioned laugh out loud film though.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FlashD wrote: »

    Well if that is the case, then 'Mama', according to the reviews, is a sad representation of his skill as an executive producer.

    I have a feeling this film will get some proportion of an audience because of his attached name and 'Pans Labyrinth'. Many movie goer will leave with that name slightly damaged in marketing terms.

    This will have a knock on effect when it comes to rolling out his own directorial projects. Hellboy 3 anyone?

    I seriously doubt that anyone is going to look negatively at Del Toro's work based on a film he produced. It's like saying that Django Unchained suffered at the box office because of how poorly The Man with the Iron Fists did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭jupiterjack


    went to see it earlier and it wasnt too bad....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    I liked it. The ending wasn't great but it was unsettling, enjoyable creepy horror overall.

    Finally saw it and agree with this!

    For me the most tense moment in the whole film is the father and his daughter at the beginning in the cabin.


    Also, the CGI was very dodgy throughout! I thought Mama herself was awful!


    You summed up the ending well though, not great but quite unsettling :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    It wasn't that bad, wasn't the worst and wasn't the best.

    It kind of reminded me of insidious, good start but got steadily worse towards the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Load of codswallop I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Wasn't great. That's two duds from Del Toro now. Mama and Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark. In both cases the monsters were far too CGI and unrealistic looking. He's going backwards since the excellent Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Disappointed to read so many didn't like this film. The trailer didn't help - whoever made it just pandered to the lowest common denominator and made the film out to be much worse.

    I thought the film was great - incredibly creepy. Especially the younger girl (Lilly), how she clutched onto her sister, head behind her arm, her constant sickly, disheveled look. I hate child actors but I thought these kids were great. Loved the 'this house is haunted' scenes too. Also, the way the shots were set up, like panning from hallway to kitchen, but the camera's in the darkened sitting room (where you see Lilly come out of a box) - really unsettling! Thought the gradual reveal of CG Mama was as good as job as you can do with a CG spectre. Expected scares, jump scares, did a great job building tension. Annabel (girlfriend-now-reluctant-mom) had a fine story arc.

    Only let downs were the climax (which was drawn out too much) and "M-A-M-A-M-A...." on the hospital monitor display. It might feel a bit unoriginal at times but overall it's one of the creepiest things I've seen in years. And who doesn't love King Slayer Jaime Lannister as the uncle! Definitely recommend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,201 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Thought it was pretty damn atrocious to be honest..

    .. been on a horror binge catching up on all the recommended horrors from recent years (using lists from Bloody-Disgusting and the like), and this one is near the bottom of the ones I've seen lately.

    As soon as they revealed Mama, it just became laughable!
    Ally Dick wrote: »
    Wasn't great. That's two duds from Del Toro now. Mama and Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark. In both cases the monsters were far too CGI and unrealistic looking. He's going backwards since the excellent Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone
    Can't really compare since he wrote and directed Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone.

    He was simply a producer on Mama and Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark, though he did write the screenplay for Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    Basq wrote: »
    Thought it was pretty damn atrocious to be honest..

    .. been on a horror binge catching up on all the recommended horrors from recent years (using lists from Bloody-Disgusting and the like), and this one is near the bottom of the ones I've seen lately.

    As soon as they revealed Mama, it just became laughable!


    Can't really compare since he wrote and directed Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone.

    He was simply a producer on Mama and Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark, though he did write the screenplay for Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark.

    I saw this at the weekend and yeah, the reveal of mama towards the end had us in fits of laughing. she was comical looking. Really, really bad film.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    It started off quite good, then once the CGI thing appeared it was woeful, CGI doesnt belong in horror films, even the kids were CGI at some points early on, why? was it really much of a stretch to makeup up the child actors and get them to walk on all fours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Basq wrote: »
    Thought it was pretty damn atrocious to be honest..

    .. been on a horror binge catching up on all the recommended horrors from recent years (using lists from Bloody-Disgusting and the like), and this one is near the bottom of the ones I've seen lately.

    As soon as they revealed Mama, it just became laughable!


    Can't really compare since he wrote and directed Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone.

    He was simply a producer on Mama and Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark, though he did write the screenplay for Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark.

    I'd agree. Thought this was pretty damn awful. Not an ounce of originality and one of the worst monsters in recent memory. Turns into a CGI mess for the final third also.
    Why did they feel the need to have CGI children at the beginning? Madness

    Care to share your list of recent horros? Have been trying to catch up also. Only got around to watching The Loved Ones recently - excellent film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,201 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Tusky wrote: »
    Only got around to watching The Loved Ones recently - excellent film.
    Superb movie alright.. though I don't have fond memories of it due to being in a car crash the morning after I saw it, so always associate it. Kinda funny that!

    Probably seen most of these - but in the area of US and commercially successfully horror movies, I personally thought "Sinister" was one of the best horrors of recent years (albeit with a silly ending).. oh, and "Insidious" is very good too. "The Possession" was decent.. well, the best of the recent batch of possession movies.

    "The Innkeepers" was a low-key horror directed by Ti West, which is largely well written and atmospheric, but a little disappointing in it's execution.

    A bit of an oldie now but "All The Boys Love Mandy Lane" was decent, albeit predictable.

    All I can think of at the moment tbh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    krudler wrote: »
    It started off quite good, then once the CGI thing appeared it was woeful, CGI doesnt belong in horror films, even the kids were CGI at some points early on, why? was it really much of a stretch to makeup up the child actors and get them to walk on all fours?

    Agreed on this!!!!

    It's the acting that should get the job done ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    I watched The Innkeepers last night what a pile of crap.Took ages to get going and wasnt any way frightening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,201 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    dubstarr wrote: »
    Took ages to get going and wasnt any way frightening
    To be fair, neither was 'Mama'.

    Give 'Sinister' a try..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭frash


    Basq wrote: »
    To be fair, neither was 'Mama'.

    Give 'Sinister' a try..

    Finally watched Mama last night after looking forward to it for quite a while.
    Very disappointing.

    Same thing with Sinister when I watched it a couple of months back.

    Both ended up being laughable.
    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    Saw Lovely Molly my god it was terrible teh girl who played Molly was good.Pity the film was laughable and not at all frightening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,201 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    dubstarr wrote: »
    Saw Lovely Molly my god it was terrible teh girl who played Molly was good.Pity the film was laughable and not at all frightening
    Downloaded it via On Demand during a free Sky Movies trial.. and couldn't finish it.. dreadful!


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