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  • 28-02-2013 1:04pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭


    I recently moved to a new house with a mature garden and an 8 x 4 glass.After talking to the agency Iv been give permission to use the glass house.
    It already contained very old dead tomato plants so I removed them and cleaned all the glass.
    So where do I go from here ? I heard I have to replace the soil as totamots leach it of nuitrients ?

    I plan on planting tomatos,peppers,chillies and some herbs ,Ill be heading to a nurseary during the week to pick some up.Any more advice would be great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭jimini0


    damagegt wrote: »
    I recently moved to a new house with a mature garden and an 8 x 4 glass.After talking to the agency Iv been give permission to use the glass house.
    It already contained very old dead tomato plants so I removed them and cleaned all the glass.
    So where do I go from here ? I heard I have to replace the soil as totamots leach it of nuitrients ?

    I plan on planting tomatos,peppers,chillies and some herbs ,Ill be heading to a nurseary during the week to pick some up.Any more advice would be great.
    the best people to ask are those in the garden centre you are going too. they will advise you on everything you need to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭redser7


    Would you think about growing from seed? You will have a far greater range of varieties and it will be cheaper. But more work, so maybe it will suit you to buy in plants. I imagine you will be be waiting a few weeks before they have them in as it's still early in the season. If you did get some, you would need to bring them on in the house in a well lit window, or else put a heater in that greenhouse. So maybe waiting a while to buy in your plants would be best.
    The soil will need feeding and freshening up. Make sure to take out every scrap of leaf and stem as they could be harboring blight if last year's crop got it. It's also advisable to rotate so the previous year's pests and deseases dont affect the following year's crops, which is why you are probably reading that you need to replace the soil. That's something that people might do after a few years of growing if the soil gets 'sick'. It's hard to know what went on in prevous years in your greenhouse. If you dont want to dig out and replace that soil then take out a good square foot for each planting hole and fill it with compost/manure and grow in that. Keep the fingers crossed. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭damagegt


    redser7 wrote: »
    Would you think about growing from seed? You will have a far greater range of varieties and it will be cheaper. But more work, so maybe it will suit you to buy in plants. I imagine you will be be waiting a few weeks before they have them in as it's still early in the season. If you did get some, you would need to bring them on in the house in a well lit window, or else put a heater in that greenhouse. So maybe waiting a while to buy in your plants would be best.
    The soil will need feeding and freshening up. Make sure to take out every scrap of leaf and stem as they could be harboring blight if last year's crop got it. It's also advisable to rotate so the previous year's pests and deseases dont affect the following year's crops, which is why you are probably reading that you need to replace the soil. That's something that people might do after a few years of growing if the soil gets 'sick'. It's hard to know what went on in prevous years in your greenhouse. If you dont want to dig out and replace that soil then take out a good square foot for each planting hole and fill it with compost/manure and grow in that. Keep the fingers crossed. :)
    thanks for the advice,i changed all the soil yesterday just to make sure i have a clean start.If i were to buy seed,could i start planting now ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭redser7


    Now would be a good time alright. Have you done it before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭damagegt


    not in a glass house,only in grow bags. Is there a way to plan it out?My current set up looks like this :
    greenhouse_zps9aefff4f.png


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭redser7


    Sorry, I meant have you sowed seeds before and raised your own plants. You would start the seeds off indoors in modules, preferably in a heated propagator, but at least in a warm place like the hot press, potting on to larger pots until it's time to plant them outside. That could be April for an unheated greenhouse but you would have to judge by the weather and use fleece on cold nights.
    The spacing for toms and peppers in the ground would be 1.5 - 2 foot apart. I'd say you could squeeze a bit more in there. But then again good air circulation is very important so if the owner has set up the bamboos already maybe they have a system that they found worked for them. But staggering them around like that looks good to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭damagegt


    As i said only in grow bags in the conservatory of my last house,which was quite warm with the smallest bit of sun.

    So would this sound about right :

    1.start seedlings in small pots in warm area.
    2.Wait till plants are well established
    3.Move plants to the green house around April weather pending.


    OK my nest question.
    I want to grow tomatos/peppers/chilles and a few herbs is 3/4 of the grass house,what other plant would trive and not be over complicated for my first grow ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭redser7


    Sounds like a plan alright.
    Climbing French beans will do great in there too. Cobra is a good variety and very prolific. But can cause shade as it's very leafy. So maybe try work it into a north end corner where it wont obstruct the sun. Try 3 beans, that will give you lots back. Those are tender too but fast growing so you start seeds in April for planting out once temps are above 10 or 11 C at night (late May/June). Just place stings or bamboo at them and they will scramble up it.
    Cucumbers are good too, but these really romp away and get very big so I'm not sure if you would have the room in that greenhouse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭damagegt


    I think there might be beans already in the garden but I not sure and as I have no direct contact with the landlord and the "agent" seems to take forever to get back to me I dont want to keep pestering him.But Ill try beans aswell.

    There is small blackcurrent bushes aswell,they look like at one point they were covered with a black netting,which I have repaired,is there anything I should do with them or should I leave them to there own devices ?

    Cant wait for this now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭redser7


    I'm only learning about pruning fruit bushes myself at the moment so you'd be as well googling it yourself. To be safe I'd leave it alone on that front. But now is the time to feed and mulch them. So scrape around the base and scratch in some fertiliser (high potash or even a general purpose like fish, blood and bone would be good). Actually Lidl have a berry fertiliser in at the moment as well as FBB. Water that in and then in a couple of weeks mulch around the bottom with compost of manure. That should set them up for you. Nets are a good idea to protect the fruit, again Aldi and Lidl are your friend :)


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