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mobility allowance

  • 27-02-2013 6:31pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭


    Just watching the news here and I see an allowance payable to those with mobility problems will be scrapped.

    How can the government justify such a move while they continue with their own allowances and expenses such as dry cleaning and offices expenses and travel expenses.

    I know one person who's wheelchair bound and I don't know if they receive such an allowance but I know having the wheelchair, getting around is so much more harder. Any one of us here who dont have such extra needs, can walk or take a bus. Moving about and travelling for those with mobilility, they made need a specially adapted taxi for example. Such a move, scrapping the mobility allowance will make people dependent on it and anyone who cares for him/her housebound.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Just watching the news here and I see an allowance payable to those with mobility problems will be scrapped.

    How can the government justify such a move while they continue with their own allowances and expenses such as dry cleaning and offices expenses and travel expenses.

    I know one person who's wheelchair bound and I don't know if they receive such an allowance but I know having the wheelchair, getting around is so much more harder. Any one of us here who dont have such extra needs, can walk or take a bus. Moving about and travelling for those with mobilility, they made need a specially adapted taxi for example. Such a move, scrapping the mobility allowance will make people dependent on it and anyone who cares for him/her housebound.


    In fairness - there seems to be a lot of misinformation about this. They are cancelling the scheme in 4 months as its deemed illegal by the Ombudsman. They have *said* that the money is ringfenced until a new scheme is online in 4 months. Bit early to shoot on this one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Just watching the news here and I see an allowance payable to those with mobility problems will be scrapped.

    How can the government justify such a move while they continue with their own allowances and expenses such as dry cleaning and offices expenses and travel expenses.

    I know one person who's wheelchair bound and I don't know if they receive such an allowance but I know having the wheelchair, getting around is so much more harder. Any one of us here who dont have such extra needs, can walk or take a bus. Moving about and travelling for those with mobilility, they made need a specially adapted taxi for example. Such a move, scrapping the mobility allowance will make people dependent on it and anyone who cares for him/her housebound.

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=mobility%20allowance&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCgQqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fnews%2F2013%2F0227%2F369771-mobility%2F&ei=-lEuUc2yL42yhAfjiIG4Dw&usg=AFQjCNGbHyMWF4eGcdI1l176YsEXTNMKDA

    ''Mr Kenny said that the Government had no choice but to close the grants to new applicants and that it would spend the next four months devising the new scheme''.

    There will be a new scheme op.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Ah, cool, cheers. I ready to revolt there for a moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 arkwatch


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Just watching the news here and I see an allowance payable to those with mobility problems will be scrapped.

    How can the government justify such a move while they continue with their own allowances and expenses such as dry cleaning and offices expenses and travel expenses.

    I know one person who's wheelchair bound and I don't know if they receive such an allowance but I know having the wheelchair, getting around is so much more harder. Any one of us here who dont have such extra needs, can walk or take a bus. Moving about and travelling for those with mobilility, they made need a specially adapted taxi for example. Such a move, scrapping the mobility allowance will make people dependent on it and anyone who cares for him/her housebound.


    The allowance is not being abolished for four months, a replacement will come into place in the meantime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    OP,
    severe mobility problems are a lot more complex than the use of a wheel chair,many people on the severe or profound spectrums of developmental disability and/or intelectual disability are classed under severe mobility problems without using wheelchairs.
    am on the uks high rate mobility allowance due to the severe effects on mobility and life/wellbeing caused by severe autism and id,am not able to use any form of public transport and use the hrm towards the uks motability scheme.

    many people with severe mental illnesses are also not able to access public transport due to how their condition affects them and cannot afford taxis,so in effect it excludes them from their community,but there isnt the support to help them.


    there woud be an absolute uproar if ireland got rid of the mobility allowance,and woud be one of those joining in because severely disabled relatives of mine relie on it.
    theyre probably going to change it to something ridiculously tacky sounding like the 'movement encouragement program' if our incompetent david 'jeremy kyle' cameron run guvmint is anything to go by.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    The next step will be a wheelchair and guide dog tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Without checking if there is any evidence I'm surmising that various people in the charity industry got their lawyers to get the Ombudsman to check into it so that it could be extended to a lot more people. She found that it should but I heard figures of €100 millon and €300 million being given as the probable extra expenditure the government would have to find. It currently costs €10 million. Apparently it had no legal basis in legislation having being introduced in the 1960's by some sort of circular or directive.

    So the only ones that will lose out are the 5,000 or so for whom it had been operating satisfactorily and not being on the public radar much. Maybe it would have been better if some people had left well enough alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    HondaSami wrote: »
    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=mobility%20allowance&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCgQqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fnews%2F2013%2F0227%2F369771-mobility%2F&ei=-lEuUc2yL42yhAfjiIG4Dw&usg=AFQjCNGbHyMWF4eGcdI1l176YsEXTNMKDA

    ''Mr Kenny said that the Government had no choice but to close the grants to new applicants and that it would spend the next four months devising the new scheme''.

    There will be a new scheme op.

    it will be scrapped because it is ageist [it is not available to those over 66]
    and as such goes against the equal status act or something. its a legal thing basically, but of all the time to dig into this why now, and not 10 years ago during the boom when there was money to compensate the possible downtime between schemes :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Before you reel in that misinformed knee-jerk OP, here's something for you to get morally outraged about-


    http://www.thejournal.ie/domiciliary-care-allowance-775256-Jan2013/


    A friend of mine had her DCA withdrawn because she taught her severely autistic six year old son how to dress himself.

    Because he was able to dress himself he was considered independently capable enough to consider the payment unnecessary.


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