Importing Pig Slurry

Bitten & Hisses

I remember from previous threads that some of you on this forum import pig slurry. I have been thinking recently about doing this and have some questions.

1. What do you need to do to comply with legal and regulatory requirements? I am in REPS4, presumably my NMP would need to be modified? I also seem to remember the pig farm would need to notify the EPA about spreading on a new landbank. Do the EPA visit the farm importing the slurry?

2. If I put several loads into a tank and left it there for a while, will the pig slurry separate out like cattle slurry, meaning it would need to be agitated?

1chippy

you send off for a form which will state what your allowed. Then get the slurry delivered, simple as. Pig slurry is more like soiled water than cattle slurry and shouldnt need agitation. If you can get from the fattener units its the pick of it. Great for copper too.

zetor 4911

1chippy wrote: »

you send off for a form which will state what your allowed. Then get the slurry delivered, simple as. Pig slurry is more like soiled water than cattle slurry and shouldnt need agitation. If you can get from the fattener units its the pick of it. Great for copper too.

1 Chippy - It is not as simple as that. The form which the dept send states the quantity of pig slurry which you can import so that you won't exceed the 170 kg/n/ha limit. You also have to take into account the level of Phosphorous in the pig slurry and the quantity of P which you can apply to the farm. So by applying the quantity of pig slurry the dept says could cause you to exceed your P limits. The dept does state on the bottom of the form that every farmers has to calculate the level of P he/she is allowed.

Manoffeeling

How about belly grass?

td5man

Manoffeeling wrote: »

How about belly grass?

Think you say nothing til you hear more.

bob charles

Manoffeeling wrote: »

How about belly grass?

That would come with a range of tested values which have to be included on you import forms. Remember its a double sided sword so whoever is exporting has to be singing from the same hymn sheet as the importer;). Didnt think belly grass was still been land spread

1chippy

zetor 4911 wrote: »

1 Chippy - It is not as simple as that. The form which the dept send states the quantity of pig slurry which you can import so that you won't exceed the 170 kg/n/ha limit. You also have to take into account the level of Phosphorous in the pig slurry and the quantity of P which you can apply to the farm. So by applying the quantity of pig slurry the dept says could cause you to exceed your P limits. The dept does state on the bottom of the form that every farmers has to calculate the level of P he/she is allowed.

Well i had taken that as a given.(they send out a form that lets you know what your allowed) its not that hard to calculate. We do it a fair bit and its no real hassle.

zetor 4911

1chippy wrote: »

Well i had taken that as a given.(they send out a form that lets you know what your allowed) its not that hard to calculate. We do it a fair bit and its no real hassle.

1 Chippy - dont take me up wrong all i was saying is that the quantity of pig slurry the dept says you are allowed does not take account of the soil p index on the farm or the quantity of meal fed. So each farmer has to do that calculation and i know that a number of farmers applied the quantity of imported pig slurry the dept said and they are now in trouble for exceeding their P allowance.

Muckit

Manoffeeling wrote: »

How about belly grass?

belly grass ..... phssh.....what about blood? :rolleyes: Great stuff altogether... apparently!

td5man

Muckit wrote: »

belly grass ..... phssh.....what about blood? :rolleyes: Great stuff altogether... apparently!

Best stuff to grow grass alright,farmer 5 miles away used to spread it your nose would let you know when he was spreading.

grazeaway

Muckit wrote: »

belly grass ..... phssh.....what about blood? :rolleyes: Great stuff altogether... apparently!

Lad round here used to spread it straight from the factory, Jaysus 'twas hars stuff. Every cow within 2 miles would smell it and go beserk. It was tough trying to bring them in for milking, all tails up and tounges out. He started mixing it in with the slurry after he moved his own cattle up there and they knocked all the fences. That was we had to put up with for ages. Great grass though.

Manoffeeling

td5man wrote: »

Best stuff to grow grass alright,farmer 5 miles away used to spread it your nose would let you know when he was spreading.

Not only does it plough down, but sometimes the smell can plough back up! We spread sewage one time at home. The smell really lingered even after we ploughed. It was foggy I know, but Jaysus, the mother was giving out about the smell of the curtains!

freedominacup

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

I remember from previous threads that some of you on this forum import pig slurry.

Spent the day at it yesterday a couple of hours tomorrow morning and we'll be up to date on the grazed ground. 2K gals/ acre is all the N we'll spread on first rotation. Cattle slurry will go on grain ground and a bit of re-seeding.

Bactidiaryl

Rain coming next week to wash it in.

freedominacup

Bactidiaryl wrote: »

Rain coming next week to wash it in.

Nothing like as critical as with cattle slurry much lower solids. Once fields are well grazed 3 weeks is usually enough between grazings.

mf240

Muckit wrote: »

belly grass ..... phssh.....what about blood? :rolleyes: Great stuff altogether... apparently!

Not allowed anymore but it was savage stuff to grow grass.

Wooly Admirer

The department have really started to tighten up on Pig farms in the past year. In recent years, some pig farms provided very loose overall figures for amount of slurry produced and exported - situation has changed this year.

A form that can be found on the Dept website needs to be filled out - it called Record 3 and can be found under the Nitrates section. Alot of it was spread round here without any notice to N or P limits, the only limit seemed to be how much could be spread before it started running out the gate.

This form has been around for a good number of years, but not all piggeries were complying fully - until this year, and forms were sent to all importing farms - some of which got a bit of a fright when they realised how much they had exceeded their P limits. You need to do your sums and if you can't do them - go to someone who does.

Depending on how much you have exceeded your limit - the penalties are extremely tough - and once the forms are sent in there is v.little (usually nothing) you can do about it.

heinervb

mf240 wrote: »

Not allowed anymore but it was savage stuff to grow grass.

thought it was still allowed to be spread?

Mad4simmental

Do the pig lads deliver the sh!t by truck into your tank or do you have to collect?

Under stocked this year so it could be a good year to import a good bit.

TITANIUM.

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Do the pig lads deliver the sh!t by truck into your tank or do you have to collect?

Under stocked this year so it could be a good year to import a good bit.

We have to collect it down this neck of the woods. Or they have a guy who can spread it for you.
Tis great stuff all the same.

Reggie.

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Do the pig lads deliver the sh!t by truck into your tank or do you have to collect?

Under stocked this year so it could be a good year to import a good bit.

Its delivered by artic loads here

freedominacup

Collected here but if you're not getting 3 loads every 2 hours the value starts to get marginal.

Farrell

Thinking about getting a few load of Pig Slurry to put in the tank.
Working out from Ag food, Cattle should be 80.3 NPH.
What would be the max 000Gal to keep us inside the 170NPH limit?

zetor 4911

Farrell wrote: »

Thinking about getting a few load of Pig Slurry to put in the tank.
Working out from Ag food, Cattle should be 80.3 NPH.
What would be the max 000Gal to keep us inside the 170NPH limit?

Need also to calculate the amount of N and P your land can take (depends on the results of soil samples - if taken) So it is not just the 170 limit that has to be taken into account. Also need to add in the P in the meal fed in 2014 and the N and P in the bag manure used in 2015.

Farrell

zetor 4911 wrote: »

Need also to calculate the amount of N and P your land can take (depends on the results of soil samples - if taken) So it is not just the 170 limit that has to be taken into account. Also need to add in the P in the meal fed in 2014 and the N and P in the bag manure used in 2015.

P was 2mg/l (index 1), not sure how to work out feed

yosemitesam1

Have an excel sheet here that can calculate your allowance, pm me if you want it