Car accident

AAAA12345

Hey I need some help with figuring out who is in fault for an accident in a car park.

Anyway I was reversing out slowly checked all around me and continued to reverse out of the space I keep on reversing and as I go to stop the car I hear a thud. I had hit another car reversing out anyway although I recognize I was at fault for not stopping the car would both drivers not share the blame as he did not give me the right away when I had reversed out first, he also insists that he was stopped and seen me reverse into his car and thus it is completely my fault.

Any help would be appreciated,Thanks.

Alanstrainor

A reversing car has no right of way.

Leave it up to the insurance companies to figure out regardless, your opinion on the matter wont matter much.

CiniO

Alanstrainor wrote: »

A reversing car has no right of way.

But both cars were reversing.
So they both didn't have right of way/

rocky

50/50

Mr Benevolent

It'll probably go 50/50 since you were both reversing.

olcod

50 / 50, insurance will call it that. I always reverse INTO car parking spaces to avoid this happening, much safer.

Alanstrainor

CiniO wrote: »

But both cars were reversing.
So they both didn't have right of way/

Doh...

50/50 is my guess.

AAAA12345

Well he is still insisting on the fact that he stopped and I reversed into his front, also we would rather not go through insurance since we are both young drivers and dont want our premiums going up in price.

Stheno

AAAA12345 wrote: »

Well he is still insisting on the fact that he stopped and I reversed into his front, also we would rather not go through insurance since we are both young drivers and dont want our premiums going up in price.

If you can't agree on who is at fault and the damage is significant enough that it is worth going through insurance, then this is what will happen.

You should report it to your insurance anyway if the other driver got your details he can lodge a claim with them directly

CiniO

AAAA12345 wrote: »

Well he is still insisting on the fact that he stopped and I reversed into his front, also we would rather not go through insurance since we are both young drivers and dont want our premiums going up in price.

If he really stopped and you kept reversing which resulted in crash, then it's your fault.

The thing is that it's his word against yours. I understand he claims he stopped (in which case it's his fault), while you say he didn't stop (in which case it's 50/50)

Unless there are some extra witnesses or maybe CCTV it will be very hard to prove anything.

AAAA12345

Stheno wrote: »

If you can't agree on who is at fault and the damage is significant enough that it is worth going through insurance, then this is what will happen.

You should report it to your insurance anyway if the other driver got your details he can lodge a claim with them directly

Well it is only a dent and no damage has been done to my car so going through insurance for both of us would not be beneficial also I know him quite well and I know he is a trustworthy guy.

Lawless2k12

AAAA12345 wrote: »

Well he is still insisting on the fact that he stopped and I reversed into his front, also we would rather not go through insurance since we are both young drivers and dont want our premiums going up in price.

You reversed into the front of his car? I assumed twas bum to bum! That may change things slightly... If twas rear to rear then you could both go on about saying the same thing and it would end up 50/50, but if it's rear to front that could be trickier... Depends on how much to the front you hit him too?

AAAA12345

Lawless2k12 wrote: »

You reversed into the front of his car? I assumed twas bum to bum! That may change things slightly... If twas rear to rear then you could both go on about saying the same thing and it would end up 50/50, but if it's rear to front that could be trickier... Depends on how much to the front you hit him too?

I didnt hit him exactly in the front, my car hit the side on the passengers side while my car was completely straight after reversing out

Stheno

AAAA12345 wrote: »

I didnt hit him exactly in the front, my car hit the side on the passengers side while my car was completely straight after reversing out

Like the wheel arch/bonnet on the front passenger side?

I'm not quite picturing how this happened.

tayto lover

AAAA12345 wrote: »

Well he is still insisting on the fact that he stopped and I reversed into his front, also we would rather not go through insurance since we are both young drivers and dont want our premiums going up in price.

If you were both reversing how could you run into his front?

bobin fudge

sounds straight forward enough how it happend tbf, I think the other guy was almost finished his reversing manouvre when op reversed into him, hence the angle he hit him at

couldbe wrong though

AAAA12345

Stheno wrote: »

Like the wheel arch/bonnet on the front passenger side?

I'm not quite picturing how this happened.

Yes around that area

AAAA12345

bobin fudge wrote: »

sounds straight forward enough how it happend tbf, I think the other guy was almost finished his reversing manouvre when op reversed into him, hence the angle he hit him at

couldbe wrong though

Pretty much but my car was barely straightened up and his was maybe 3/4 out of his spot.

slavetothegrind

if you know him well and believe him trustworthy accept what he says and find a good panel beater to sort out the dent as reasonably as possible

is it worth falling out over this when you cannot be 100% you are right?

then i am of the pay it forward way of life...;)

AAAA12345

slavetothegrind wrote: »

if you know him well and believe him trustworthy accept what he says and find a good panel beater to sort out the dent as reasonably as possible

is it worth falling out over this when you cannot be 100% you are right?

then i am of the pay it forward way of life...;)

Yeah im not trying to screw him over and I like the guy, he told me he will need a new panel. Do you have any idea how much that will cost?

slavetothegrind

i dont, not in the trade, but if you post a new thread with the make model and year someone might be able to help

it may be repairable rather than replacement job?

AAAA12345

He said he went to a garage and they cant pull it out since its on a panel or something but the dent itself is fairly small

Lawless2k12

AAAA12345 wrote: »

He said he went to a garage and they cant pull it out since its on a panel or something but the dent itself is fairly small

Don't let him take you for a ride anyway! Make sure you know it's your fault first. No point wasting good money in this economy when it could be left to gather dust in your wallet for a rainy day

Alanstrainor

AAAA12345 wrote: »

Yeah im not trying to screw him over and I like the guy, he told me he will need a new panel. Do you have any idea how much that will cost?

How old is his car?

A new panel, plus a respray, it's going to cost a few hundred I reckon.

If in doubt just let it go through insurance. That's what it's there for.

Stheno

tayto lover wrote: »

If you were both reversing how could you run into his front?

I still can't figure this out, were you both reversing out of car park spaces and he was ahead of you and you were reversing in opposite directions?

Alanstrainor wrote: »

How old is his car?

A new panel, plus a respray, it's going to cost a few hundred I reckon.

If in doubt just let it go through insurance. That's what it's there for.

Yeah I'd agree with that, less than a thousand, but still in the hundreds.

The fact you hit his front imo would go against you in an insurance claim.

challengemaster

Stheno wrote: »

I still can't figure this out, were you both reversing out of car park spaces and he was ahead of you and you were reversing in opposite directions?

There's the problem.

From what I'm piecing together, the OP was reversing out, the other guy was reversing in.

Stheno

challengemaster wrote: »

There's the problem.

From what I'm piecing together, the OP was reversing out, the other guy was reversing in.

Thanks CM! That makes perfect sense then.

I'd think then if that was the case, that as the other guy was on the "main road" OP is at fault for not giving way?

TheChizler

So he was reversing into a space as you were reversing out of a space then?

kravmaga

OP , if you did indeed see his vehicle but did not stop and kept reversing knowing there was a risk of an impact then I would say you are at fault.

You were reversing out and should have yielded until his vehicle was clear.

If it goes to insurance claim I think you could be held liable. ie your insurance company will settle, its not a 50/50 here.

I would ask ther guy for a few quotes on the damage to his vehicle and pay the lower , cash to keep it from going to an insurance claim for both parties

tomred1

What were you looking at when you were reversing? If you only stopped when you heard a thud, why were you not looking out your back window?

dzer2

tomred1 wrote: »

What were you looking at when you were reversing? If you only stopped when you heard a thud, why were you not looking out your back window?

I rarely look out of the back window when reversing I use my mirrors. The tip happened it looks like the OP is a fault so the next thing is to get 2 estimates on the repair. If the damage is only a dent and the other party insists that it gets repaired make sure that it is done and dont just hand over the money.

pippip

Dont think the other car was reversing in.

Sounds like both were reversing out from spaces pretty much opposite each other but the other car had completed more of the maneuver thus their car was almost pointing straight (but still going backwards) when the collision occured.