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Immigration Question

  • 25-02-2013 3:24pm
    #1
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I just want to run a situation by you first of all to heighten my own understanding, and to ask advice in the case of this being an issue.

    This is to do with an American friend of mine, let's call him Bob.

    Bob got a working holiday authorisation through USIT (like the J1 but opposite) to allow him to work in Ireland for 12 months, effectively all of 2013.

    Before leaving for Ireland, Bob decides only to stay for a week rather than a year, and so has return flights booked for 7 days after arrival. He arrives, shows his authorisation visa at the airport and is not asked for return flight proof. So, because the visa is 12 months, the immigration official marked in his passport the GNIB number to request that he register for an immigration card. This is standard procedure to my knowledge for anybody who arrives with the intention of staying more than 3 months.

    The mistake here was entering on the visa and not visa waiver I am guessing, because the intention was actually only to stay for a week, although I'm unsure if that matters.

    So Bob returned to America without registering with the bureau and obviously not overstaying as he was here 7 days.

    Now Bob wants to return for the remainder of the visa. He has a one-way flight booked. But he still has the GNIB number written in the passport.

    My assumption is that he should be entitled to land again, present himself at immigration at the airport, enter the country and go to the GNIB and pay the fee for an immigration card?

    Am I correct in this assumption? Is there anything that I should be concerned about here? I am guessing the previous entry and GNIB thing in the passport will mean questioning, however I think if he's honest about the situation and has original flight details from the last visit there shouldn't be a problem. As I see it there was just a mistake in how he originally stated his intention to stay.

    If anybody can shed any insight into this situation it would greatly help my state of mind as I prepare for his visit.

    Thanks!


Comments

  • #2
    Alex Salmon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 ✭Alex Salmon


    Is the visa marked as multiple entry?


  • #3
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Alex Salmon wrote: »
    Is the visa marked as multiple entry?

    Yes


  • #4
    Alex Salmon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 ✭Alex Salmon


    No problem then.


  • #5
    blueythebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    As a US Citizen, he is not visa required to enter Ireland so why does he have a visa at all?


  • #6
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Alex Salmon wrote: »
    No problem then.

    Terrific! I figured as much, just wanted to double check to make sure I understood correctly and wasn't missing anything. Appreciate it! You are a salmon of knowledge.
    blueythebear wrote: »
    As a US Citizen, he is not visa required to enter Ireland so why does he have a visa at all?

    To work here. :)


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  • #7
    blueythebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    8-10 wrote: »


    To work here. :)

    Your use of the word "visa" threw me. If he has a Working Holiday Authorisation from the Irish Embassy or Consulate in the USA, then he is exempt from normal work permit/green card requirements and can indeed work here. As stated before, if he is a US Citizen, he is non-visa required so can travel into Ireland without the need for a visa.

    Just remember that entry is subject to the discretion of the Immigration Officer, so your friend needs to ensure that he has documentation to back up his stated intentions, e.g. when he plans to return to Ireland or where he intends to live and proof of finances, etc.


  • #8
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    blueythebear wrote: »
    Your use of the word "visa" threw me. If he has a Working Holiday Authorisation from the Irish Embassy or Consulate in the USA, then he is exempt from normal work permit/green card requirements and can indeed work here. As stated before, if he is a US Citizen, he is non-visa required so can travel into Ireland without the need for a visa.

    Just remember that entry is subject to the discretion of the Immigration Officer, so your friend needs to ensure that he has documentation to back up his stated intentions, e.g. when he plans to return to Ireland or where he intends to live and proof of finances, etc.

    Great thanks for clearing that up for me, apologies for the confusion in how I stated it! My assumption was that it was a 'J1' in the opposite way. This is why I needed further input.

    So yes entry should be ok, just with a clear intention of situation. He already is organising a letter from the bank stating funds available so I'm sure it'll be fine.

    My mind is now at ease.


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