Mini Pump

1jcdub

I need advice regarding my new Ridley Orion frame. I went to fit my bottle cage and mini pump on the down tube but the pump won't mount onto the frame, the reason being the bracket for mounting the pump is too short in that it doesn't give enough clearance to clear the oversized down tube frame as the down tube. Can anyone recommend a good mini pump that would fit the frame?
P.S it must be able to pump to minimum of 100psi

Cheers

redmaxi

Save your money and put the mini pump in your back pocket. You won't even know it's there. Anyway a pump stuck on to the bottle cage ruins the look of the bike.

AstraMonti

I had a few mini pumps, and I can safely say all of them sucked at blowing, from cheap to expensive carbon ones. I throw them all away and the only thing I have with me is co2. If you want to stick with pumps, I would suggest a frame pump that sits underneath the top tube, at least it will work when you need it (unless you are a masochist and you like staying in the freezing rain pumping for half an hour to get to 60psi )

murph226

Any recommendations for a C02 pump, is there any out there with a gauge or do you bring a seperate gauge with you?

AstraMonti

I have an old SKS one that's been working grand for the last couple of years. I don't have any to recommend though. You shouldn't need a gauge, a 16g canister should be able to get you up to 120psi.

route66

Have a look at this recent thread for advice on minipumps.

People sometimes make the common mistake of thinking a 6" minipump should be a do-it-all device. They're not.

You need 2 pumps: one decent track pump for everyday use and a small, good quality device for emergencies (preferably with a flexible hose connector to avoid valve breakages). CO2 canisters are faster than minipumps but that's only half the story - sometimes the cannisters run out before you get enough air in; you need to figure out how many you carry on a ride (to be sure, the number you need is always too many); put up with the weight of carrying them; stay awake at night wondering if you can reuse the 1/4 used cannister or should you just chuck it; environmental impact, etc.

If you look after your tyres and use reasonable durable ones, you should not get punctures too often and therefore for the sake of the extra 10-15 minutes per 3 years (my figures), I'm happy to put up with the minor inconvenience but increased flexibility of a minipump over CO2.

Now that I've said that, I realise that

• CO2 Vs Minipump is more of a religious rather than a technical discussion
• I'm going to get punished and I will be plagued with punctures from now on

murph226

I have a great SKS track pump that I use to check and maintain the tyres with every few days.

I look after the bike fairly well, its cleaned at the end of every week and I check the tyres for any damage and sharp debris, tyres are GP4000S's.

I have a Blackburn Airstick mini-pump for the last couple of years but its just not cutting it anymore.
Especially when commuting, the possibility of being late for work because of the extra 15minutes swinging out of the pump to get the tyre half inflated.

Its definitely time to get a C02 pump, any really good ones out there?

cdaly_

route66 wrote: »

CO2 canisters are faster than minipumps but that's only half the story - sometimes the cannisters run out before you get enough air in;

If you look after your tyres and use reasonable durable ones, you should not get punctures too often and therefore for the sake of the extra 10-15 minutes per 3 years (my figures), I'm happy to put up with the minor inconvenience but increased flexibility of a minipump over CO2.

I use this inflator with these cartridges. I also carry a mini pump 'cos it's handy for finding and mending the puncture (after the third tube change). I still use CO2 to inflate the tyre 'cos I can't be arsed pumping.

A single 16g CO2 cartridge should inflate all bike tyre sizes to their recommended pressures but you can always pump it a bit beforehand and finish off with CO2.

• CO2 Vs Minipump is more of a religious rather than a technical discussion
• I'm going to get punished and I will be plagued with punctures from now on

One thing I've found with my durable gatorskins is that, when they start to go, I get a whole raft of punctures to remind me to replace them...

route66

cdaly_ wrote: »

I use this inflator with these cartridges. I also carry a mini pump 'cos it's handy for finding and mending the puncture (after the third tube change). I still use CO2 to inflate the tyre 'cos I can't be arsed pumping.

A single 16g CO2 cartridge should inflate all bike tyre sizes to their recommended pressures but you can always pump it a bit beforehand and finish off with CO2.

I suppose both is good because you won't get caught out. But (almost) like you, I couldn't be arsed, eh, CO2'ing

cdaly_ wrote: »

One thing I've found with my durable gatorskins is that, when they start to go, I get a whole raft of punctures to remind me to replace them...

Woops, I got one puncture on my Garorskins last year caused by a tiny piece of glass. The tyre still looks perfect - let's hope I haven't jinxed things ...

cdaly_

route66 wrote: »

Woops, I got one puncture on my Garorskins last year caused by a tiny piece of glass. The tyre still looks perfect - let's hope I haven't jinxed things ...

The way mine have gone is mainly through wear though I have had two tyres get significant punctures where the glass got through the puncture resist layer and left an edge of the layer protruding into the inside of the tyre. This would then chafe the tube causing a slow leak. I'd not notice the cause, get repeated slow leaks before copping on to what was happening. A patch to the inside of the tyre usually sorts that out for a while...

Dotsie~tmp

www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-turbo-morph-with-gauge

Got this earlier today. Will try it later. Hopefully it will give the ability to get to 100psi on the road without an eternity of pain.

1jcdub

I think I'll go for a new mini pump, possibly the Topeak and get some co2 canisters as well!

Dotsie~tmp

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-turbo-morph-with-gauge

Got this earlier today. Will try it later. Hopefully it will give the ability to get to 100psi on the road without an eternity of pain.

Just pumped 700-32c hybrid tyre to 100psi with maybe 30% more effort than my track pump. A new double handed technique was needed and care to pump straight because of the narrow base. I pumped near 110 and felt no significant increase in difficulty. Some very minimal hand discomfort. Light years ahead of that nasty painful minipump i had (5 mins of hard effort for 60 psi a lot of pinches, pain and resignation). The guage underestimated the pressure my about 3psi when compared to my track.

I'll report on 120psi when i get my new road bike next week.

TheBlaaMan

1jcdub wrote: »

I need advice regarding my new Ridley Orion frame. ...... Can anyone recommend a good mini pump that would fit the frame?
P.S it must be able to pump to minimum of 100psi

Cheers

I use a Lezyne Pressure Drive Mini ABS Pump bolted to the seat tube bottle cage anchor points on my Ridley Orion. Works perfectly and (although it takes a while) its good for 100lbs/psi plus a bit.
Can post a pic if needed.

1jcdub

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

I use a Lezyne Pressure Drive Mini ABS Pump bolted to the seat tube bottle cage anchor points on my Ridley Orion. Works perfectly and (although it takes a while) its good for 100lbs/psi plus a bit.
Can post a pic if needed.

Thank for the reply. If you could post a pic out would be much appreciated.
On a different note, how do your Ridley Orion?

TheBlaaMan

I love the Orion, its plenty stiff for 'performance' and yet easily comfy enough for 100km + spins/sportives. Its not the lightest full carbon frame, but it makes up for any extra weight in terms of stability and control-ability. Also easy to work on if you want to do your own work.

Here's a quick pic of the pump in place - I bought the brighest colour I could get to ensure I'll find it if ever dropped into a ditch !

1jcdub

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

I love the Orion, its plenty stiff for 'performance' and yet easily comfy enough for 100km + spins/sportives. Its not the lightest full carbon frame, but it makes up for any extra weight in terms of stability and control-ability. Also easy to work on if you want to do your own work.

Here's a quick pic of the pump in place - I bought the brighest colour I could get to ensure I'll find it if ever dropped into a ditch !

Thanks for the pic. I think I'll mount the pump there.

I only got to my new frame last week and went for a cycle last Sunday. I did notice an immediate difference in rigidity and with that more of my effort going into the rear wheel. Going to pick up a set of Mavic elite s today. Hope there add good as people say