won't tackle u14 hurler

spud65

amalgamated for u14 hurling, got one lad who is big strong good hurler but will not get involved in tackling and if he got tight marker then he's out of the game completely, have had him on the rope loose ball on the end try an win it just pushes lads his size won't try an win ball, if i put a smaller lad he will get stuck in but if the smaller fella puts up a fight for the ball he backs off, on the rope you can see a slight pull back when pulling as if afraid.
help needed, any ideas. thanks

randd1

spud65 wrote: »

amalgamated for u14 hurling, got one lad who is big strong good hurler but will not get involved in tackling and if he got tight marker then he's out of the game completely, have had him on the rope loose ball on the end try an win it just pushes lads his size won't try an win ball, if i put a smaller lad he will get stuck in but if the smaller fella puts up a fight for the ball he backs off, on the rope you can see a slight pull back when pulling as if afraid.
help needed, any ideas. thanks

Drop him to the bench. Tell him the reason you're dropping him is because he's;

1. A coward
2. Because he's a coward, he's not going to get stuck in, and thus likelier to get injured and thats neither good for him or the team.
3. He needs to learn that you have to earn the right to play. If a lad is willing to do the things he's not, then he wont be playing.

If that doesn't light a fire under his arse, then nothing will and he'll never be any real use. You need players with a bit of cut and fight in them.

platypus

randd1 wrote: »

Drop him to the bench. Tell him the reason you're dropping him is because he's;

1. A coward
2. Because he's a coward, he's not going to get stuck in, and thus likelier to get injured and thats neither good for him or the team.
3. He needs to learn that you have to earn the right to play. If a lad is willing to do the things he's not, then he wont be playing.

If that doesn't light a fire under his arse, then nothing will and he'll never be any real use. You need players with a bit of cut and fight in them.

Don't think calling him a coward as a first option is a good idea with a ~13 yr old. In general trying to build their confidence and self esteem a better approach than lighting fires under them ime.

Maybe tell him you know he is a very good hurler, and that he is big and strong and you need to see him use those attributes. Also putting him in drill situations where he is the aggressor in the tackle with little chance of him getting hurt might help work towards improving his play in close contact situations

Op, find your post tought to read, can you describe that drill again and what it's meant to achieve?

nice_guy80

you need to start doing some semi contact drills in training when doing skill work

and then full contact drills using mini games

introduce some tackle bags
some children are just not used to being roughed up as they might have no brothers at home

jordainius

randd1 wrote: »

Drop him to the bench. Tell him the reason you're dropping him is because he's;

1. A coward
2. Because he's a coward, he's not going to get stuck in, and thus likelier to get injured and thats neither good for him or the team.
3. He needs to learn that you have to earn the right to play. If a lad is willing to do the things he's not, then he wont be playing.

If that doesn't light a fire under his arse, then nothing will and he'll never be any real use. You need players with a bit of cut and fight in them.

Please don't ever get involved in underage coaching.

rockonollie

Insulting young lads is the very last thing coaches should do.......if you're coaching a senior team, by all means call out your players if they are afraid to get involved in contact......but underage coaches are there to nurture and develope our future players.

Emphasise the importance of getting stuck in with the lad, if he's a big strong kid, then it should be a strong point of his game, make sure he knows that......and if he's worried about hurting someone, show him how he can use his size to move opponents off the ball without having to use the stick.

spud65

spud65 wrote: »

amalgamated for u14 hurling, got one lad who is big strong good hurler but will not get involved in tackling and if he got tight marker then he's out of the game completely, have had him on the rope loose ball on the end try an win it just pushes lads his size won't try an win ball, if i put a smaller lad he will get stuck in but if the smaller fella puts up a fight for the ball he backs off, on the rope you can see a slight pull back when pulling as if afraid.
help needed, any ideas. thanks

randd1 wrote: »

Drop him to the bench. Tell him the reason you're dropping him is because he's;

1. A coward
2. Because he's a coward, he's not going to get stuck in, and thus likelier to get injured and thats neither good for him or the team.
3. He needs to learn that you have to earn the right to play. If a lad is willing to do the things he's not, then he wont be playing.

If that doesn't light a fire under his arse, then nothing will and he'll never be any real use. You need players with a bit of cut and fight in them.

please tell me your taking the p**s

spud65

platypus wrote: »

Don't think calling him a coward as a first option is a good idea with a ~13 yr old. In general trying to build their confidence and self esteem a better approach than lighting fires under them ime.

Maybe tell him you know he is a very good hurler, and that he is big and strong and you need to see him use those attributes. Also putting him in drill situations where he is the aggressor in the tackle with little chance of him getting hurt might help work towards improving his play in close contact situations

Op, find your post tought to read, can you describe that drill again and what it's meant to achieve?

each time before training i try an encourage him to get stuck in more.
we hook,block and do tackle drills at every session plus other drills.

drill: two players pullin on the rope 1 loose ball (approx 2/3 meters away at the end of the rope) which they fight for whoever wins the ball has to strike ball over the bar with other guy trying to defend.

what it's meant to achieve: pulling together tackling,hooking, blocking, picking under pressure, striking under pressure

spud65

nice_guy80 wrote: »

you need to start doing some semi contact drills in training when doing skill work

and then full contact drills using mini games

introduce some tackle bags
some children are just not used to being roughed up as they might have no brothers at home

only child

do semi and full contact drills at each sessions

will give the tackle bags a try, thanks

passremarkable

spud the only way to get through to do him is explain it to him, chat to him. tell him he should use his size more, compare him to a small firey lad on the team and tell him to match that, and if he does he will see what he can achieve with his size. tell him he can have all the skill and size in the world, but if he does get stuck in he will get found out..tell him he has huge potential and that your a big fan of his..every young lad loves praise

spud65

passremarkable wrote: »

spud the only way to get through to do him is explain it to him, chat to him. tell him he should use his size more, compare him to a small firey lad on the team and tell him to match that, and if he does he will see what he can achieve with his size. tell him he can have all the skill and size in the world, but if he does get stuck in he will get found out..tell him he has huge potential and that your a big fan of his..every young lad loves praise

oh man i gota start taking fish oils my memory is fried, had that chat with another guy last year he was always messing about but a good hurler after our chat his whole attitude changed messing stopped, hurling improved alot.
sometimes you gota take a step back an put it up on boards:)

thanks passremarkable

passremarkable

spud65 wrote: »

oh man i gota start taking fish oils my memory is fried, had that chat with another guy last year he was always messing about but a good hurler after our chat his whole attitude changed messing stopped, hurling improved alot.
sometimes you gota take a step back an put it up on boards:)

thanks passremarkable

no worries;)

shoddy14

He's backing and backing the whole time. My father always told me stand toe to toe and hurl like it's you last match. There should be blood pouring from you're marker come the final whistle. Bayjasus it's awful demoralising to see youre big fella hitting the floor every 5 minutes. Only way to teach him is to put him in the u-16 group and get a fine strappy young fella on him and whip him into place. If nothing is done in the present time he will be sitting on his backside in few years time playing junior B

malascoile

The tackle bags are great. make sure you get him tearing into them after a few sessions and then do some drills full contact with other people

Dotsie~tmp

Tell him, if he doesnt get his sh*t together youre gonna pour petrol though his letterbox and burn him and his family to death.

If that doesnt light a fire under him nothing will.

randd1

spud65 wrote: »

please tell me your taking the p**s

It worked for me. I was way too fond of standing back and not getting stuck into players when I was younger.

The coach took me aside and said, look you have a bit about you, but you're too cowardly in tackling lads. Cut out the cowardly behaviour, get stuck in, or you'll never get games otherwise.

I changed my tune completely. Turned out I was never going to be a county hurler, but I was decent enough at underage as a back because I had the law laid down to me by my coach and was then willing to get stuck in the opposition.

As for me saying earlier on about telling a young lad he's a coward, perhaps I may not have fully explained what I meant by it.
I didn't mean you should insult the young lad, but be honest with him and lay down the facts to him as to where he's going wrong and why. Not every young lad needs to be molly-coddled and told they're great, sometimes a bit of blatant honesty might be the thing to light the fire in a young lad.

Clareman

Right folks, this thread has turned into a car crash so I'm locking it.

We are talking about dealing with 13 year olds here folks, not senior players, Op, speak to your club or county development officer for some advice.