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  • 22-02-2013 2:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭


    Is there any reason for paramedics to take your details. Are they going to send a bill or something. There was no mention of it.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Bang Bang


    poisonated wrote: »
    Is there any reason for paramedics to take your details. Are they going to send a bill or something. There was no mention of it.

    Thanks

    Where you the patient?

    All patients have their details, name DOB, next of kin, GP, relevant medical history, the reason you are being treated and observations found by the Paramedic, amongst other details and findings. These are recorded on the Patient Care Report (PCR) form which shows a record of care as well as the details taken. This information is then passed onto the receiving medical staff in the Emergency Department with the top copy of the PCR being retained in the hospital, this shows continuity of care as well as a record of the patients vital observations along with any interventions and/or medications administered by the Paramedic. The remaining copy of the PCR is retained by the Ambulance Service.

    If you were a family member of the patient then your details, name and phone number would also be recorded on the Patient Care Report form.

    There is no charge for an Emergency Ambulance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    For the Illuminati records


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    Oh right thanks. No. I didn't end up in hospital. He just had a look and said I might need stitches but should be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭wicklaman83


    poisonated wrote: »
    Oh right thanks. No. I didn't end up in hospital. He just had a look and said I might need stitches but should be fine.
    So you dialed 999 for stitches. Hardly an emergency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭martinr5232


    So you dialed 999 for stitches. Hardly an emergency.


    What makes you think he rang it ??

    If it was a head injury with a lot of blood is it not better to be safe than sorry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    What makes you think he rang it ??

    If it was a head injury with a lot of blood is it not better to be safe than sorry.

    Only if there is nobody there to bring you to the hospital. Never ceases to amaze me how many people call out the ambulance when they can easily make their way to the hospital. I hope the ambulance so start charging soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    SB2013 wrote: »

    Only if there is nobody there to bring you to the hospital. Never ceases to amaze me how many people call out the ambulance when they can easily make their way to the hospital. I hope the ambulance so start charging soon.

    Any barrier between the public and the Emergency Services is bad news in my opinion.

    You'll have people refusing to phone for emergency help as they can't afford a call out charge.

    I'd prefer there to be dozens of unnecessary call outs if it lets one genuine lifethreatening emergency get efficient lifesaving treatment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    Any barrier between the public and the Emergency Services is bad news in my opinion.

    You'll have people refusing to phone for emergency help as they can't afford a call out charge.

    I'd prefer there to be dozens of unnecessary call outs if it lets one genuine lifethreatening emergency get efficient lifesaving treatment.

    Would you still prefer it if you were the one waiting on something urgently while they were bust putting a plaster on someones booboo?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    SB2013 wrote: »
    Only if there is nobody there to bring you to the hospital. Never ceases to amaze me how many people call out the ambulance when they can easily make their way to the hospital. I hope the ambulance so start charging soon.

    What if he couldn't easily make it to hospital? What if it was a leg injury which impaired walking and a taxi wouldn't take him?

    If it is a genuine case then no harm, if it is a bull**** case then yes, it's an abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    SB2013 wrote: »

    Would you still prefer it if you were the one waiting on something urgently while they were bust putting a plaster on someones booboo?

    No, I'd like an ambulance service which has sufficient resources to deal with all calls, regardless of their seriousness. One whose members decide whether something requires assistance, not leaving it to the untrained to weigh up whether it's sufficiently serious to justify the cost of a 999 call. One where, if you fear for your wellbeing or that of someone else, the cost of help doesn't come in to it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    foreign wrote: »
    What if he couldn't easily make it to hospital? What if it was a leg injury which impaired walking and a taxi wouldn't take him?

    If it is a genuine case then no harm, if it is a bull**** case then yes, it's an abuse.

    Exactly
    No, I'd like an ambulance service which has sufficient resources to deal with all calls, regardless of their seriousness. One whose members decide whether something requires assistance, not leaving it to the untrained to weigh up whether it's sufficiently serious to justify the cost of a 999 call. One where, if you fear for your wellbeing or that of someone else, the cost of help doesn't come in to it.

    Such a service cannot exist in the current economical climate. It would be considered inefficient. Ironic and sad at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    Should probably point out that there was no ambulance involved. This was on the street. He came up to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Leo Demidov


    poisonated wrote: »
    Should probably point out that there was no ambulance involved. This was on the street. He came up to me.

    Did he have any cable ties or duct tape, hope you didn't give him too much information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    SB2013 wrote: »
    Exactly



    Such a service cannot exist in the current economical climate. It would be considered inefficient. Ironic and sad at the same time.

    Leave economics out of it will ya, if you bring financial resources into it than no shoplifting incidents under €1500 or criminal damage incidents of similar value should be investigated by the Gardai anymore either as the cost of investigation, court and legal aid are far higher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    Leave economics out of it will ya, if you bring financial resources into it than no shoplifting incidents under €1500 or criminal damage incidents of similar value should be investigated by the Gardai anymore either as the cost of investigation, court and legal aid are far higher.

    That would be incorrect as it does not take into account the long term damage caused by such incidents. Telling someone with a sore tummy to drive themselves to the hospital or leaving two people to swap their details after a minor crash will not damage society. Letting someone off with thieving will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭ambo112


    An ambulance service is their to provide treatment for persons with an illness or injury. The seriousness of the injury or illness is irrelevant, we are here to provide a service to the public.

    As servants we will attend to them when needed. If you don't like it, find another job.

    Any other issues around that in terms of response times and resources are management issues and they should ensure we have enough resources but alas they don't and we have a very very poor response time which makes us all frustrated and annoyed when we get, what we consider to be a minor call. All we can do is our best, one call at a time.

    What might seem minor to us as people who SEE it everyday may be terrifying for someone who is EXPERIENCING for the first time.


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