Tractor & loader V's Loading shovel

delaval

We have a Manitou pivot steer and are considering changing it. I am wondering should we go for a tractor /loader combo or another loader?
Would you lose much out put considering attachments would be smaller?
Any thoughts?

yellow50HX

delaval wrote: »

We have a Manitou pivot steer and are considering changing it. I am wondering should we go for a tractor /loader combo or another loader?
Would you lose much out put considering attachments would be smaller?
Any thoughts?

You would need to spend a lot of money to have a tractor a loader comparable to the loader. That said which will you use most?

GERMAN ROCKS

delaval wrote: »

We have a Manitou pivot steer and are considering changing it. I am wondering should we go for a tractor /loader combo or another loader?
Would you lose much out put considering attachments would be smaller?
Any thoughts?

do you need the tractor for something else? have you already a good tractor. which will be doing the most work? loader will have far better hydraulics and i couldnt go without the torque for a loader. it would drive me mad clutching the whole time.

delaval

We have a 135hp tractor puts up aprox 1000 hrs
Loader 900 hrs

Blue Holland

Reckon once your used to having loader you'd be lost without it, the amount of times that bit of extra reach comes in handy. Have a JCB TM300 myself.

yellow50HX

Blue Holland wrote: »

Reckon once your used to having loader you'd be lost without it, the amount of times that bit of extra reach comes in handy. Have a JCB TM300 myself.

while i'll proably get a loader on the next tractor i get i'll still be using the digger, espically for any heavy loader work. the shuttle and power in the loader is far superior to anything a tractor of similar size, age and cost could do. that said i do use the loader on the tractor for some jobs, like cleaning out the calf pens (digger wont fit into that shed) and for moiving stones (leave the bucket on the loader when rolling, harrowing and rotovating). the one thing a tractor loader combo will be better then a loader is where you need a loader to fill a trailer like bringing bales from one place to another. i'f i'm on my own when brining in the straw i'll use the tractor to load in the feild and unload in the shed with the digger, if there are two of us and the draw isnt too far then i'll bring the digger to do all the loader work. that said many of the newer loaders have a PUH and are capable of pulling bale trailers.

Tipp Man

Aren't pivot steers a ridiculous price new?

could be wrong but i thought i read somewhere that a new JCB 310 is in the region of 100k. You would get a great loader and tractor for that

bogman_bass

while we're on the topic. I see a lot of matbro tr 200s and 250's for 10-12k. seem quite cheap compared to a similar JCB. do the matbros have a bad name?

F.D

i think going from a loader back to a tractor and loader would be a move you regret have drove loads of telehandlers and loading shovels in the past and no tractor loader comes near them for agility and hydraulic power

tfox

bogman_bass wrote: »

while we're on the topic. I see a lot of matbro tr 200s and 250's for 10-12k. seem quite cheap compared to a similar JCB. do the matbros have a bad name?

Matbro's are wonderful machines, had 2 in the last place I worked. Both tr200's, would outlift and out-manouvere any tractor and loader, you really couldnt compare them !!

Basically same as Manitou and Redrock, pin and cone headstock with hyraulic lock is a godsend, no getting in and out and fighting with levers !! We had a set of spacers for front wheels when using it on the clamp, 8ft buckrake with 5ft solid tines no bother !!

Perkins turbodiesel engines are bulletproof.

Personally I'd go for a 200 over a 250. The 250 is fair bit wider and taller only for extra half tonne capacity !!

6480

all the industrial loaders cant be beaten for speed and comfort around any yard but in a field they are too heavy , a tractor and loader do the job but if you have a high volume of loader work its an industrial loader you need

awaywithyou

F.D wrote: »

i think going from a loader back to a tractor and loader would be a move you regret have drove loads of telehandlers and loading shovels in the past and no tractor loader comes near them for agility and hydraulic power

agree wholeheartedly

we have both... CAT910 (years old) and a John deere tractor with a loader.. john deere more comfortable cos its only a couple of years old but wouldnt come near the CAT for agility and handiness around the yard.... id buy a good loader.. a new one even... be well worth it

ci985

Have a handler ourselves wouldnt be without it does all the winter work twice as well as the tractor loader combo we had!
Now we have a tractor thats a pleasure to drive doing any job and no loader hanging on the front!! Would love to know
what the merlo handler with 3 point linkage is like that to me would seem the perfect all round handler!!

delaval

Thanks you have all confirmed what I thought.