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West Cork farmer pays hash by the hour

  • 21-02-2013 7:55pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭


    Bloody cockneys!!
    Thursday, February 21, 2013

    A Londoner living in West Cork grew cannabis and paid workmen 2g of the drug per hour to build a house for him.

    By Liam Heylin
    John McFadden, of Trafraska, Baltimore, Co Cork, who runs a 50-acre cattle farm, operated a cannabis barter system to pay labourers.

    However, drugs squad gardaí were alerted to the crop and obtained a warrant to search his property.

    Garda Padraig Slater said they found €10,000 worth of cannabis herb in two tubs in his kitchen and in two brown paper bags upstairs.

    McFadden, aged 57, was arrested on May 28, 2011, and, on his way to Bandon Garda Station, he told gardaí that he had another property at Clogher, Dunmanway, Co Cork.

    Gardaí immediately got a further warrant to search that property, where they found one cannabis plant and a stash of cannabis herb worth over €23,000.

    Defence barrister Donal O’Sullivan said it was for supply rather than sale, and that McFadden did not benefit financially from it.

    McFadden told gardaí he was involved in barter whereby he would give workmen 2g of cannabis per hour’s work on a house he was building. He also said he was a heavy user of the drug himself, using about 1g a day.

    Judge Patrick J Moran said that, in all of his years adjudicating over drugs cases, he had never come across something like this.

    “It seems to be a novel way of dealing in drugs,” said the judge.

    He read testimonials from neighbours and friends who described McFadden as decent, hardworking, honest, responsible, and a person of standing in the community.

    “I accept you were of very considerable assistance to gardaí investigating this matter,” he said. “I suspect you would not have been charged with the Dunmanway offence but for the fact that you volunteered the information.

    “This is a very serious offence. The legislature requires a judge by law to impose a sentence of not less than 10 years unless there are exceptional circumstances. I don’t believe this is a case requiring such a sentence.”

    He imposed a five-year suspended sentence and told Mr O’Sullivan: “Tell your client I advise him to stay with his cattle and forget about cannabis.”


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Where do I sign up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    He imposed a five-year suspended sentence and told Mr O’Sullivan: “Tell your client I advise him to stay with his cattle and forget about cannabis.”

    Sums up the justice system in Ireland. "Ah shure, don't mind them aul 'drugs', shure ya have enough cattle to be looking after, HA?"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    keith16 wrote: »
    Sums up the justice system in Ireland. "Ah shure, don't mind them aul 'drugs', shure ya have enough cattle to be looking after, HA?"

    Aye, because this is teh crime of the century!!

    Fúck sake. Legalise the damn plant already, complete waste of the time and money of the judicial system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    I don't see it mention hash anywhere, what's with the subject?

    edit: No wait... I get it now... (terrible)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    Works out around €28.50/hour tax free! More than I earn anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I'd do it, but i'd have to like get up and like do stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    The system should be more worried about all the labourers who were working and signing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,693 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    karma_ wrote: »
    Aye, because this is teh crime of the century!!

    Fúck sake. Legalise the damn plant already, complete waste of the time and money of the judicial system.


    Am I the only one who read that in a Ming Flanagan accent?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    The gardai always add a few 0's to end of a haul and call it street value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    A minium of 10 ****ing years? Who the **** decides these kind of things? I'd like to murder them... get myself a nice 3 year suspended sentence hopefully.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    What a waste of police time and tax payers money it is keeping a strain of plant illegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    A minium of 10 ****ing years? Who the **** decides these kind of things? I'd like to murder them... get myself a nice 3 year suspended sentence hopefully.

    I think (I could be very, very wrong though) that it's over 10,000 euro worth of any illegal drug.

    And you only get your suspended sentence for murder if you're a drug/alcohol addicted/come from a broken home/are a general scumbag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Cannabis is a gateway drug...to the munchies...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I think (I could be very, very wrong though) that it's over 10,000 euro worth of any illegal drug.

    And you only get your suspended sentence for murder if you're a drug/alcohol addicted/come from a broken home/are a general scumbag.

    Even without suspended, it's still ridicously small.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Oh no the evil cannabis plant strikes again. Complete waste of time dragging this fellow through the courts. I often got paid in alcohol for labouring jobs good times. But cannabis is the devils drug and anyone growing it should be dragged through the streets for this heinous crime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    keith16 wrote: »
    Sums up the justice system in Ireland. "Ah shure, don't mind them aul 'drugs', shure ya have enough cattle to be looking after, HA?"

    Yeah...... throw the man working 50 acres in prison.
    Now who should we bypass to let him in........... Robbie the rapist, Paddy the peado, or perhaps Slasher Mcgee.
    Those prison cells are at a premium.

    Gerard Barry with a previous conviction for manslaughter was on bail for rape when he raped and murdered the Swiss student Manuela in Galway.
    I wonder was there a cannabis grower warming Barrys cell on the night he carried out the attack?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    Fair play to the judge. It'd be awful to have seen him jailed.

    On another note, i'd love to have seen the builders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    Only in Ireland!

    I'd say that was the most unmotivated bunch of staff ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    mikom wrote: »
    Yeah...... throw the man working 50 acres in prison.
    Now who should we bypass to let him in........... Robbie the rapist, Paddy the peado, or perhaps Slasher Mcgee.

    Urrmmm...Welease Woger??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    MadsL wrote: »
    Urrmmm...Welease Woger??

    Leave him where he is......... He's a very naughty boy.

    PS. Nobody used the "Hash in hand" pun yet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    mikom wrote: »
    PS. Nobody used the "Hash in hand" pun yet?

    Just you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    daRobot wrote: »
    Fair play to the judge. It'd be awful to have seen him jailed.

    On another note, i'd love to have seen the builders.

    On yet another note, I'd love to have seen the building!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Only in Ireland!

    I'd say that was the most unmotivated bunch of staff ever!

    I'd say the opposite
    FearDark wrote: »
    Oh no the evil cannabis plant strikes again. Complete waste of time dragging this fellow through the courts. I often got paid in alcohol for labouring jobs good times. But cannabis is the devils drug and anyone growing it should be dragged through the streets for this heinous crime.
    It's good PR for the Garda to be seen to be carrying out big drug busts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭ceegee


    Suspended sentence is a good call by the judge imo, your man doesnt seem to be any danger to society.

    One thing I found strange is the talk of him only supplying it and not for monetary reasons. He was getting his house built off the back of supplying it ffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    On yet another note, I'd love to have seen the building!

    Image here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Tazio


    So he paid them "hash in hand".... Crazy stuff....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    If cannibis is to become a recognised currency, what will the basic unit of currency be: a Joint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    MadsL wrote: »
    Just you.

    Nope.
    See post 27.
    Never underestimate Cannabis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    I had trouble converting from imperial to metric there. It's been a while. :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Boombastic wrote: »
    It's good PR for the Garda to be seen to be carrying out big drug busts.

    Gardai are only doing their job. AGS are not involved in creating the legislation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭Eileen Down


    Cannabis is a gateway drug...to carpentry..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 OldIrishWulf


    The trades men working on the house were not working for cash . Social welfare might state they were not available for work . What work . This government seem to think I should retrain for a job in cloud computing , whatever that is .

    At this stage I could say I used to be a carpenter . The only time I ever get my head into gear is and get the drive to go out and walk up to building sites and talk the talk ,is when I find buts of joints young lads throw away and dry the crumbs and re-roll .

    Its hard for someone who's idea of work is sitting at a desk to understand. I would work for free if I got to use my tools to build something .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    They must have been working "Hash in Hand"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    They must have been working "Hash in Hand"
    They were the best stoned-masons in the area though, sadly, they couldn't whip up the enthusiasm to actually build anything so they just sat around discussing how great the house would be when it was finished and how wild the scenery was. After a week they all got paranoid that he was only giving them 1.5g per hour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    TheNog wrote: »
    Gardai are only doing their job. AGS are not involved in creating the legislation.

    Chill the kacks, I never mentioned legislation


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    TheNog wrote: »
    Gardai are only doing their job. AGS are not involved in creating the legislation.

    That's what the camp guards said when they were gassing millions of people. :rolleyes:
    trollface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12



    That's what the camp guards said when they were gassing millions of people. :rolleyes:
    [SIZE="1"][COLOR="White"]trollface.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
    Yay Godwins law


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    Yay Godwins law

    That isnay even a real law.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ceegee wrote: »
    Suspended sentence is a good call by the judge
    The legislature requires a judge by law to impose a sentence of not less than 10 years unless there are exceptional circumstances.
    What % of people eligible have got the full 10 years ? And why so many exceptional circumstances ?

    If the judges feel the law is wrong then they should get the politicians to change it rather than subvert the law by not implementing it. Unenforced laws mean people respect laws less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Tazio wrote: »
    So he paid them "hash in hand".... Crazy stuff....

    Ah they were decent skins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Snake Pliisken


    He was actually taking a loss when you budget in the biscuit-related expenses.


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