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BVD samples lost?

  • 21-02-2013 3:57pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭


    Any one had BVD samples go missing?. Sent 30 samples on the 11/02, contacted Enfer today and they have not received them yet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    yes, thinking of sending them registered post now, lost a retest , had to order another tag and calf has 5 tags now... they are very helpful in enfer but its a total pain in the arse, might be an idea to send them in smaller lots in future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    whelan1 wrote: »
    yes, thinking of sending them registered post now, lost a retest , had to order another tag and calf has 5 tags now... they are very helpful in enfer but its a total pain in the arse, might be an idea to send them in smaller lots in future
    Easy for them to be helpful, they havn't found the samples. An post says that any envelope with Enfer labs on it will end up in Kildare, so its not wrong address. Enfer labs guys keep saying, wait till tomorrow.

    How long did it take to get the replacement BVD tags, incase I have to do a retest. Balls if I have to retest all of them. Deal is done to have calves collected Monday. Could really do with some calf space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Any one had BVD samples go missing?. Sent 30 samples on the 11/02, contacted Enfer today and they have not received them yet.

    did you mark "exempt animal specimen" on the envelope, if not maybe in quarantine somewhere in an post,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    hugo29 wrote: »
    did you mark "exempt animal specimen" on the envelope, if not maybe in quarantine somewhere in an post,
    i have never marked this on an envelope, and only twice in about 40 postages did they get lost


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    whelan1 wrote: »
    i have never marked this on an envelope, and only twice in about 40 postages did they get lost

    either have I but i have only ever sent max 4 at once, i am just thinking 30 plastic tubes in an envelope and someone in an post probably thought jayus we are under attack


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    the address is long enough without writting more on the envelope


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Any one had BVD samples go missing?. Sent 30 samples on the 11/02, contacted Enfer today and they have not received them yet.
    Not being smart but did you put €1.50 stamp on? We send in batches like that, costs €1.50:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Have actually dropped my samples into the lab in cork in person and an post are not very reliable at the best of times. Also we're already paying enough for the testing as it is between the new tagged, the new tags and the tests themselves, never mind having to fork out for re-tests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    whelan1 wrote: »
    the address is long enough without writting more on the envelope

    Ya, and it's spring time...time is precious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    no prob so far with mislaid, ....but posted 16 on Tuesday last and got text to day for 8 results... will wait until to morrow to follow up

    any one experience split results or partial result ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    delaval wrote: »
    Not being smart but did you put €1.50 stamp on? We send in batches like that, costs €1.50:mad:


    Wife got it weighed in the post office and paid accordingly.

    Ringing around the different sections of AnPost... They are a joke. There's no going past the desk in the local office...any thing else needs forms filled in etc. no one can pick up a phone to do an enquiry...they weren't even sure which depot lost post goes to ... Portlaoise or limerick.
    Hope to god it just "turns up" in Enfer tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    jomoloney wrote: »
    no prob so far with mislaid, ....but posted 16 on Tuesday last and got text to day for 8 results... will wait until to morrow to follow up

    any one experience split results or partial result ?

    A few times last year, usually means to other 8 are PI's


    Only joking. Split results can often happen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Wife got it weighed in the post office and paid accordingly.

    Ringing around the different sections of AnPost... They are a joke. There's no going past the desk in the local office...any thing else needs forms filled in etc. no one can pick up a phone to do an enquiry...they weren't even sure which depot lost post goes to ... Portlaoise or limerick.
    Hope to god it just "turns up" in Enfer tomorrow.
    i post 2 0r 3 times a week, if you dont get the results its very hard to remember back actually posting them, sometimes my mam or dad would post them, so for a while last year i wrote down each batch and when i posted them etc, tbh dont have the time at the minute, pity the milkman cant collect them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    whelan1 wrote: »
    i post 2 0r 3 times a week, if you dont get the results its very hard to remember back actually posting them, sometimes my mam or dad would post them, so for a while last year i wrote down each batch and when i posted them etc, tbh dont have the time at the minute, pity the milkman cant collect them

    That's why I was posting them in bigger batches. Milk lorry is a good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Was it here or over on forum4farming tgat I read that those plastic envelopes that enfer sent out were ripping in the an post sorting machines? Anyways I sent off about 8samples in one 2days ago, with a 55cent stamp, results today! (all negative also!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    jomoloney wrote: »
    no prob so far with mislaid, ....but posted 16 on Tuesday last and got text to day for 8 results... will wait until to morrow to follow up

    any one experience split results or partial result ?

    Which reminds me I posted some Monday, should have had results today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Was it here or over on forum4farming tgat I read that those plastic envelopes that enfer sent out were ripping in the an post sorting machines? Anyways I sent off about 8samples in one 2days ago, with a 55cent stamp, results today! (all negative also!)
    We always put the plastic envelope in another envelope, do you?
    How did vice grip work Tim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    delaval wrote: »
    We always put the plastic envelope in another envelope, do you?
    How did vice grip work Tim?

    Did with the last batch, was in a rush with these few so didn't bother!

    Vice grips has found a permanent new home in the parlour!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Did with the last batch, was in a rush with these few so didn't bother!

    Vice grips has found a permanent new home in the parlour!
    We are constantly finding them in paddocks in Spring time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    delaval wrote: »
    We are constantly finding them in paddocks in Spring time
    Good thing ye arent tying the tails up to the rafters anymore so :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    delaval wrote: »
    We are constantly finding them in paddocks in Spring time

    Spray paint them some bright colour that will be much more noticeable if you forget to take it off!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    i suppose its a wonder the green part of the movement cert comes safe in the post also.... also seal the bvd sample envelope with sellotape


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    whelan1 wrote: »
    i suppose its a wonder the green part of the movement cert comes safe in the post also.... also seal the bvd sample envelope with sellotape
    Have you ever tried getting permit on agfood really handy and instant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    permit on agfood is a mighty system...

    op i also reg post bigger lots of samples for what its worth.. too much room for error with an post considering the short timeline with calves this time of year...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    delaval wrote: »
    Have you ever tried getting permit on agfood really handy and instant
    yup am doing that now, can you get a blank movement permit on line, ie that you do not have the buyers info?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    whelan1 wrote: »
    yup am doing that now, can you get a blank movement permit on line, ie that you do not have the buyers info?

    Yes, you can get a blank one, and write in the buyers details later. Great system


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Yes, you can get a blank one, and write in the buyers details later. Great system
    did your samples turn up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    whelan1 wrote: »
    did your samples turn up?

    Afraid not. Got to talk to a very helpful person in An Post and she said that they are running into alot of problems with " those plastic tubes". They are causing alot of problems in the sorting office. Apparently anything bigger than a key should be put in a bubble wrap envelope, as the machine that reads the addresses could mangle an envelope that has something bulky in it. Mostly the address is still readable, so An Post will repackage the vials and forward them on. In the majority of cases we don't know there has been an issue. But sometimes the goods are repackaged, and since the address can't be read from the mangled envelope the goods are sent to limerick, to lost post. It could take weeks to recover them from here.
    So I have reordered tags and will have to retest. In the meantime I have sent a "lost post " form to An Post, they might find them. And I will ring Enfer a few more times to see if they turn up. As it turns out there were 45 in the envelope . Arrhhhhhh

    So heads up, put the vials in bubble envelopes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    maxxuumman wrote: »

    Yes, you can get a blank one, and write in the buyers details later. Great system
    Leave destination blank


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Afraid not. Got to talk to a very helpful person in An Post and she said that they are running into alot of problems with " those plastic tubes". They are causing alot of problems in the sorting office. Apparently anything bigger than a key should be put in a bubble wrap envelope, as the machine that reads the addresses could mangle an envelope that has something bulky in it. Mostly the address is still readable, so An Post will repackage the vials and forward them on. In the majority of cases we don't know there has been an issue. But sometimes the goods are repackaged, and since the address can't be read from the mangled envelope the goods are sent to limerick, to lost post. It could take weeks to recover them from here.
    So I have reordered tags and will have to retest. In the meantime I have sent a "lost post " form to An Post, they might find them. And I will ring Enfer a few more times to see if they turn up. As it turns out there were 45 in the envelope . Arrhhhhhh

    So heads up, put the vials in bubble envelopes.

    did tag testing voluntarily across my calves a few years ago and that was enfrers reccomendation then... sorry to hear about all those re taggings... bummer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 KODL


    Hi,

    I have been using Animal Health Laboratories, in Bandon, in Cork and I have had no problems what so ever, all results back within two days and the staff there are very helpfull and friendly. Would highly reccomend them.

    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    Got text this morning from Enfer. 45 clear animals. Tags turned up!!!!!!
    Rang Enfer, apparently they just turned up on Wednesday.

    Let the mass exodus of calves begin. Hurray


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Got text this morning from Enfer. 45 clear animals. Tags turned up!!!!!!
    Rang Enfer, apparently they just turned up on Wednesday.

    Let the mass exodus of calves begin. Hurray

    so how long since you posted them then

    was just wondering how they survived out of cold storage:rolleyes::confused:


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