Pump - which one?

BailMeOut

Can someone tell me which pump to buy for puncture repair emergencies? I bought a small useless one and it did not work and only found out on side of road. What is the most bullet proof, small enough to carry, best value, will always work pump to buy? Ideally one with frame attachment.

Thanks!

Mycroft H

Zefal HPX

cycleways stock them for about 30 euros.

Idleater

What do you mean by carry?
If on the bike, I recommend the zefal hpx.

BailMeOut

This Zefal looks quite long. Will it fit into a saddle bag? (dimensions are not listed)

petethedrummer

The HPX comes in 4 different lengths

Harrybelafonte

Depends on the size of your saddle bag.

petethedrummer

BailMeOut wrote: »

Will it fit into a saddle bag? (dimensions are not listed)

I doubt even the shortest one would fit in a saddle bag. I attach it to the frame at the water bottle bosses.

Mycroft H

No, it's a frame pump.




You can get a much better pressure than the small compact pumps. 100+psi is realistically achievable with the HPX. Which your never going to get with the small micro pumps.

route66

Many pumps have a connection that goes directly onto the valve. If you don't support the valve very carefully when pumping the tyre up, you will snap it off. The quality of the pump is a bit irrelevant in this case then ...

So you need a pump with a flexible connector. The size you pick will be a compromise between convenience and ability - bigger is best performing but worst for carrying.

I have a small one of these:

And it fits grand inside one of these (I have the medium):

And I have used it in anger - puncture in freezing conditions in the middle of nowhere - and it performed admirably. I don't know what pressure I put into the tyre but it was ok for me to continue on my 50 KM cycle without any compromise. And I'm no lightweight either ...

The Topeak Morph Mini Pump is also good. Bigger than the Lezyne but easier to use.

petethedrummer

route66 wrote: »

Many pumps have a connection that goes directly onto the valve. If you don't support the valve very carefully when pumping the tyre up, you will snap it off. The quality of the pump is a bit irrelevant in this case then ...

Worth the risk for the quality of HPX in my opinion. If you support it properly you can give it the full of the shoulder to get good pressure in.

I'm curious to try the Lenzyne mini pumps but not until the HPX dies.

Mycroft H

petethedrummer wrote: »

Worth the risk for the quality of HPX in my opinion. If you support it properly you can give it the full of the shoulder to get good pressure in.

I'm curious to try the Lenzyne mini pumps but not until the HPX dies.

My dad has one that he bought in the 70's. You could be waiting a while yet.

Dotsie~tmp

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Dotsie~tmp

Im plagued by punctures and have decided all mini pumps are devils work. Ive looked at many reviews and decided on this which I bought earlier today.

Turbo Version
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-turbo-morph-with-gauge/



Its 2 quid more expensive than the road version (below) but has better grip and guage. The reviews for both are very good with little problem getting to proper 100+ pressures. Its like a portable track pump I suppose, its about a foot long.

Road Version
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-road-morph-with-gauge/



There is also an emergency mini road version
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-mini-morph-pump/



I'll do a review when I get it. No doubt my luck aint changing.

route66

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

Im plagued by punctures and have decided all mini pumps are devils work. Ive looked at many reviews and decided on this which I bought earlier today.

Turbo Version
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-turbo-morph-with-gauge/



Its 2 quid more expensive than the road version (below) but has better grip and guage. The reviews for both are very good with little problem getting to proper 100+ pressures. Its like a portable track pump I suppose, its about a foot long.

That's about twice the size of my Lezyme and I've no doubt it's probably more than twice as good.

But ...

I have an ac-powered pump I use at home before I go out, so the pump I bring with me is just for emergencies. Based on 1 puncture in 3.5 years (there's that stat gone out the window now :rolleyes:) this means I don't really care if it takes me twice as long to pump the tyre up as long as the pump works properly. Which the Lezyme does. And it's tiny: 170mm - or a bit over 6" - in length :eek:

Dotsie~tmp

route66 wrote: »

That's about twice the size of my Lezyme and I've no doubt it's probably more than twice as good.

But ...

I have an ac-powered pump I use at home before I go out, so the pump I bring with me is just for emergencies. Based on 1 puncture in 3.5 years (there's that stat gone out the window now :rolleyes:) this means I don't really care if it takes me twice as long to pump the tyre up as long as the pump works properly. Which the Lezyme does. And it's tiny: 170mm - or a bit over 6" - in length :eek:

Im still at 16 stone so I really need that pressure to keep pinch flats at bay. Especially since the roads near me are like downtown Damascus after annual bottle smashing festival (Finglas). Unskinny guys cant get away with that low pressure

BailMeOut

excellent - thanks everyone - I am going to order the Lezyne.

Seaneh

I just bought a bog standard minipump with a gauge and a bottle cage mount and velcro strap and I use that if I get a puncture on the road, I really just want it to get me home and it gets my 32c tires to 75-80 psi easily enough and 90 with a bit of effort and that's grand until I get home to the track pump to do a proper job on it.

route66

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

Im still at 16 stone so I really need that pressure to keep pinch flats at bay. Especially since the roads near me are like downtown Damascus after annual bottle smashing festival (Finglas). Unskinny guys cant get away with that low pressure

I'm not that far behind you! The Lenzym claims it will pump to 120 psi. I can't say if it went that far, but that's the pressure I put in with my mains-powered pump before I head out and after I repaired my puncture, I can't say I noticed any difference.

leeomurchu

Would one of these not be more useful? maybe a couple of spare cartridges.

http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=40895

Captain Havoc

leeomurchu wrote: »

Would one of these not be more useful? maybe a couple of spare cartridges.

http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=40895

That's what I use, very good and quick. The other thing to bring is a valve that you can use at a petrol station for slow punctures.

doozerie

I have the Lezyne Road Drive, the large version. It is neat, so doesn't foul the pedals when attached to the bottle cage mount on the downtube, it's secure and has never shown any signs of falling off/out of the bracket, it's quite weatherproof, the flex hose on it makes life easier and is easier on the valve too, and it works reasonably well.

I think the claims by Lezyne that it'll get to 160 psi are ridiculous though - maybe you'll get towards that pressure if you have all the time in the world, and if you get the help of every cyclist in your group and every passerby to take over when your arm falls off, and even then they might have to give up because the heat of the pump will make it difficult to hold onto. I think that achieving 100 psi with it is optimistic too, based on my experiences - I've never had to use it at the side of the road, I've just used it at home to see how it fared, so I've used it under "ideal" conditions. Some reviews I've read of it claimed that it got to 100 psi with no problem, I think I want some of their drugs. But I think that all compact pumps are limited in what they can do and in that context I'm happy with the Road Drive.

doozerie

leeomurchu wrote: »

Would one of these not be more useful? maybe a couple of spare cartridges.

http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=40895

CO2 is great unless you run out of cartridges and I've been on rides where I've had to lend a pump to someone because this happened to them. I much prefer to carry a pump, despite the hassle of actually using it, because if I can't inflate my tyre it's either a long walk home or an expensive taxi ride.

Pump versus CO2 is very much a personal choice, both have their pros and cons.

gallybander

I have one of these http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftb/pumps/frame-pumps/airtool-road-pump. It brings it up to 100psi very fast, love it

leeomurchu

doozerie wrote: »

CO2 is great unless you run out of cartridges and I've been on rides where I've had to lend a pump to someone because this happened to them. I much prefer to carry a pump, despite the hassle of actually using it, because if I can't inflate my tyre it's either a long walk home or an expensive taxi ride.

Pump versus CO2 is very much a personal choice, both have their pros and cons.

I saw a pump Co2 combo somewhere recently. Best of both worlds

Konkers

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

Im plagued by punctures and have decided all mini pumps are devils work. Ive looked at many reviews and decided on this which I bought earlier today.

Turbo Version
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-turbo-morph-with-gauge/



Its 2 quid more expensive than the road version (below) but has better grip and guage. The reviews for both are very good with little problem getting to proper 100+ pressures. Its like a portable track pump I suppose, its about a foot long.

Road Version
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-road-morph-with-gauge/



There is also an emergency mini road version
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-mini-morph-pump/



I'll do a review when I get it. No doubt my luck aint changing.

+1 on the top peak pumps. YOuwill get your new tube back up to the pressure you need without thinking you'll have to head for home.
Plus I needed a spare bracket when i bought a second bike and top peak sent me a new one for free co I could not get one online.

mossym

i have the lezyne linked above on my winter/trainer bike, and a co2 system for my main bike. think if i was going on a really long ride, say ROK, i'd throw the lezyne in my back pocket just in case as well. otherwise, the co2 will do me

doozerie

leeomurchu wrote: »

I saw a pump Co2 combo somewhere recently. Best of both worlds

Or arguably the worst of both worlds - a pump that might be compromised since it's only an add-on to a CO2 inflator, plus you still have the inconvenience, expense, and added weight (if you care about small amounts of extra weight) of carrying around CO2 cannisters. :pac:

hardCopy

gallybander wrote: »

I have one of these http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftb/pumps/frame-pumps/airtool-road-pump. It brings it up to 100psi very fast, love it

Same here, great pump, and possibly a great personal security device.

route66

Captain Havoc wrote: »

That's what I use, very good and quick. The other thing to bring is a valve that you can use at a petrol station for slow punctures.

+1

I always carry one of these. I also use one so my AC-powered pump - with it's "car" connection (aka Schrader) - will work with the Presta valves on my bike.

A must have to bring with you on every ride: link

JMcL

doozerie wrote: »

I have the Lezyne Road Drive, the large version. It is neat, so doesn't foul the pedals when attached to the bottle cage mount on the downtube, it's secure and has never shown any signs of falling off/out of the bracket, it's quite weatherproof, the flex hose on it makes life easier and is easier on the valve too, and it works reasonably well.

+1 on the Road Drive. As luck/misfortune would have it, I had to use it on the first spin with it attached and it performed flawlessly, though I did manage to detach one of the rubber end caps and leave it at the side of the road by accident . Got replacements from CRC though. Their 160psi claim is a bit outlandish, I'd pumped it to about 70psi according to the track pump when I got home, still the 70 was fairly easy to achieve

BailMeOut

I ended up getting an Airace Fit Tele R. it's tiny and works really well. Can get tyres to at least 90psi, it's small enough to fit in my saddle bag and has a flexible hose built in.

http://www.wiggle.com/airace-fit-tele-r-mini-road-pump/