Possible limited corolla?

tcawley29

Hi,
I have a 2006 1.4 d-4d toyota corolla with a 90bhp engine. On youtube I have seen these cars doing 200kph+ as standard. Mine is standard and I can only get 180kph out of it with an extreme push on a downhill dual carriageway, 160kph no problem on any road.
Out of curiosity, is it possible that my car has a speed limiter somewhere and is it possible to disable it.
Thanks

colm_mcm

I'd be looking at the condition of your injectors, turbo etc.

You know about speed limits and that I'd assume?

Guy:Incognito

Parkers lists the top speed as 112mph (180kph) which would be gotten from official figures.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/toyota/corolla/hatchback-2002/28403/

CiniO

Yes, your corolla has a speed limiter. It's name is 1.4 D-4D.

According to manufacturer data this car does 0-100km/h in 13.3s and top speed of 180km/h.

tcawley29

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd be looking at the condition of your injectors, turbo etc.

You know about speed limits and that I'd assume?

How would I do that? I've owned the car for the last two years with one previous owner. I keep it regularly serviced and always use good diesel. Last service was last week (fuel filter, oil filter, air filter, oil).
Yes I know about them but it was at night time as an "out of curiosity experiment" :pac:
I do not drive like that on a regular basis

tcawley29

CiniO wrote: »

Yes, your corolla has a speed limiter. It's name is 1.4 D-4D.

According to manufacturer data this car does 0-100km/h in 13.3s and top speed of 180km/h.

That explains it. I'm probably 99% certain that I wont do this but how would I go about disabling the limit?

RidleyRider

If those cars were getting 250kph would you try to do it too?

They're probably modified, well they are. Parkers say it's 112mph, which is more believable.

Guy:Incognito

tcawley29 wrote: »

how would I go about disabling the limit?

Remove the engine and fit a bigger one.

CiniO

tcawley29 wrote: »

That explains it. I'm probably 99% certain that I wont do this but how would I go about disabling the limit?

Sell your corolla, and get another one.
Preferebly 1.8 16v petrol 192BHP.
That will do 225km/h.

tcawley29

RidleyRider wrote: »

If those cars were getting 250kph would you try to do it too?

They're probably modified, well they are. Parkers say it's 112mph, which is more believable.

Im not that brave, just as curios as to weather something was on the way out in my car or not.

Yeah that does sound more realistic. Thanks

CiniO

RidleyRider wrote: »

If those cars were getting 250kph would you try to do it too?

Can I anwer?

I would - of course.
So far over last 14 years, I didn't own a car on which I wouldn't check the top speed :cool:

tcawley29

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Remove the engine and fit a bigger one.

Definately not going to happen but thanks

JoeySully

is this for real ?

some ppl never learn
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=82865570

tcawley29

CiniO wrote: »

Sell your corolla, and get another one.
Preferebly 1.8 16v petrol 192BHP.
That will do 225km/h.

Need my diesel corolla :pac: No intention of selling it yet until I finish college maybe

tcawley29

JoeySully wrote: »

is this for real ?

some ppl never learn
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=82865570

Yes its real, only time I break the speed limit now is overtaking either a slow driver or a bad driver.
I do learn.

CiniO

tcawley29 wrote: »

Need my diesel corolla :pac: No intention of selling it yet until I finish college maybe

So no joy then.
180 is your limit, and there's not much you can do about it.

RidleyRider

CiniO wrote: »

Can I anwer?

I would - of course.
So far over last 14 years, I didn't own a car on which I wouldn't check the top speed :cool:

Fair enough:pac: Never been over 151kph in my C3 simply cause.... it won't:(

tcawley29

CiniO wrote: »

So no joy then.
180 is your limit, and there's not much you can do about it.

Oh well, Maybe if I develop a few websites for people I'll be able to afford money for something different One can dream

CiniO

RidleyRider wrote: »

Fair enough:pac: Never been over 151kph in my C3 simply cause.... it won't:(

Even the slowest C3 (1.1 61BHP) should do 158 according to manufacturer.

yuloni

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RidleyRider

CiniO wrote: »

Even the slowest C3 (1.1 61BHP) should do 158 according to manufacturer.

Well, i'm missing 7kph then:pac: Maybe after a good service she's pull 158.

mickdw

The OP must be joking. Its a 1.4 corolla. Its limited by its engine power. No more, No less. Increased wind resistance cancels out your engine power at a certain speed.
It just so happens that in your 1.4 corolla that speed is 100 mph. Plenty fast surely.
I have never maxed any car Ive owned but thats not to say Im a slow driver.

CianRyan

mickdw wrote: »

The OP must be joking. Its a 1.4 corolla. Its limited by its engine power. No more, No less. Increased wind resistance cancels out your engine power at a certain speed.
It just so happens that in your 1.4 corolla that speed is 100 mph. Plenty fast surely.
I have never maxed any car Ive owned but thats not to say Im a slow driver.

That's 111.8mph.
Mine will only do 172kph.
Haven't tried mind you.

MortGoldman

Idiotic speeds in a non performance car tbh.

antodeco

So you're driving a car registered to your folks, you overtake Garda cars at +40kph faster, you have a massive sun visor on the car, you admit to driving 180kmh at night and you also want to make it faster? I'd settle for what you have OP, before you turn into a statistic

Matt Simis

MortGoldman wrote: »

Idiotic speeds in a non performance car tbh.

Thats exactly what Im thinking, it doesnt have the brakes or suspension/handling to safely be going these speeds or even close to the limiter.

CiniO

Matt Simis wrote: »

Thats exactly what Im thinking, it doesnt have the brakes or suspension/handling to safely be going these speeds or even close to the limiter.

Sorry but what kind of brakes do you need to safely be going at 180km/h?

All normal car stock brakes including even small cars like Panda or C1 are perfectly capable of stopping the car from 180 to 0 at full performance.
Obviously they wouldn't do it 3 times in a row during few minutes, that's why those cars can't be racing on the race track, but on a straight road with no traffic where brakes might be used only in emergency they are suitable 100%.

Suspension? Handling?
There is very little technology needed to keep the car going straight on flat motorway at high speeds.

Performance cars are needed for racing, where you have to turn, accelerate and brake all the time at high speeds.

Any normal car will be perfectly safe and capable to handle and brake correctly at speeds at least up to 200km/h.

CianRyan

I'd have to assume that if it's unsafe at 180kph then Toyota would have limited it to a lower speed. I think it's very much got to do with how the driver acts and reacts at those speeds that will really determine how safe it is.

Cuddlesworth

I'm going to have to agree with CiniO about the car, it's more the driver that I don't trust at speed.

corktina

so why is 180k not fast enough for you? PS you'll be needing a new enngine shortly if you are doing that sort of speed in a 90 bhp Toyota...

corkgsxr

dont you know, anything to do with speed on youtube is false or sped up or plain lying.

tcawley29

antodeco wrote: »

So you're driving a car registered to your folks, you overtake Garda cars at +40kph faster, you have a massive sun visor on the car, you admit to driving 180km/hr at night and you also want to make it faster? I'd settle for what you have OP, before you turn into a statistic

Get your facts right or get the **** off my thread. I never said I do this on a regular basis because I don't. I never said I wanted to make it faster either I simply inquired!!!
And I never said I have a massive sun visor on my car either because I don't. Its only a 15cm and in no way whatsoever obstructs my vision

tcawley29

corktina wrote: »

so why is 180k not fast enough for you? PS you'll be needing a new enngine shortly if you are doing that sort of speed in a 90 bhp Toyota...

Once again I never said 180km/h wasn't fast enough. My regular speed is 100-120km/hr on a dual carriageway

ottostreet

tcawley29 wrote: »

Get your facts right or get the **** off my thread. I never said I do this on a regular basis because I don't. I never said I wanted to make it faster either I simply inquired!!!
And I never said I have a massive sun visor on my car either because I don't. Its only a 15cm and in no way whatsoever obstructs my vision

This isn't 'your' thread, just so you know.

CianRyan

ottostreet wrote: »

This isn't 'your' thread, just so you know.

It kind of is though...

ottostreet

CianRyan wrote: »

It kind of is though...

It's not his to tell who can and cannot post on it. He is just the starter of the conversation.

Supergurrier

200km/ph in a 1.4D4D Corolla i have owned a Focus ST for almost 9 months and i haven't gone over 150km/ph

Your mad tbh and to think insurance companies load people for buying fast cars

CiniO

Supergurrier wrote: »

200km/ph in a 1.4D4D Corolla i have owned a Focus ST for almost 9 months and i haven't gone over 150km/ph

Your mad tbh and to think insurance companies load people for buying fast cars

We already established here that 200km/h in 1.4 d-4d corrolla is impossible, except maybe from really long decline or if the engine is modified.

Did you pay much more for insurance for Focus ST than you would pay for a regular 1.4 focus?

mickdw

CiniO wrote: »

Sorry but what kind of brakes do you need to safely be going at 180km/h?

All normal car stock brakes including even small cars like Panda or C1 are perfectly capable of stopping the car from 180 to 0 at full performance.
Obviously they wouldn't do it 3 times in a row during few minutes, that's why those cars can't be racing on the race track, but on a straight road with no traffic where brakes might be used only in emergency they are suitable 100%.

Suspension? Handling?
There is very little technology needed to keep the car going straight on flat motorway at high speeds.

Performance cars are needed for racing, where you have to turn, accelerate and brake all the time at high speeds.

Any normal car will be perfectly safe and capable to handle and brake correctly at speeds at least up to 200km/h.

I dont agree with you. At 180 kph in a small non performance car you are looking for trouble.
Sure most cars in good condition are capable of an emergency stop from that speed in a straight line on a good road but what if a emergency swerve is needed for whatever reason or even heavy braking on a motorway bend, as gradual as they are will get you into trouble in a car not built for speed.

Supergurrier

CiniO wrote: »

We already established here that 200km/h in 1.4 d-4d corrolla is impossible, except maybe from really long decline or if the engine is modified.

Did you pay much more for insurance for Focus ST than you would pay for a regular 1.4 focus?

Never owned or considered owning a 1.4 Focus

CiniO

mickdw wrote: »

I dont agree with you. At 180 kph in a small non performance car you are looking for trouble.
Sure most cars in good condition are capable of an emergency stop from that speed in a straight line on a good road but what if a emergency swerve is needed for whatever reason or even heavy braking on a motorway bend, as gradual as they are will get you into trouble in a car not built for speed.

It's hard to imagine emergency swerve at 180km/h. At 180 you don't swerve - you just turn very gently.

And heavily braking on motorway bend - ABS will take care of this.

Honestly I've been doing that kind of speeds in Fiat Cinquecento as well as Impreza STI.
In case of emergency it would be the same very difficult situation, no matter what car you are driving.

I can't see why performace car could be any better.

corkgsxr

CiniO wrote: »

It's hard to imagine emergency swerve at 180km/h. At 180 you don't swerve - you just turn very gently.

And heavily braking on motorway bend - ABS will take care of this.

Honestly I've been doing that kind of speeds in Fiat Cinquecento as well as Impreza STI.
In case of emergency it would be the same very difficult situation, no matter what car you are driving.

I can't see why performace car could be any better.

more able for the speed.

90 mph in my berlingo feels like im going huge speed. it dont stop very fast from it either.

wheres my gsxr 600 feels like it is just tipping along at 90. stops fast time and time again.

mickdw

CiniO wrote: »

It's hard to imagine emergency swerve at 180km/h. At 180 you don't swerve - you just turn very gently.

And heavily braking on motorway bend - ABS will take care of this.

Honestly I've been doing that kind of speeds in Fiat Cinquecento as well as Impreza STI.
In case of emergency it would be the same very difficult situation, no matter what car you are driving.

I can't see why performace car could be any better.

Ah now, thats a load of crap.
You are doing 180kmh and you have to do an emergency lane change due to some f up in front of you. You are telling me that you would be equally happy in a bog standard Cinquecento or an STI subaru. As for not swerving, its very possible to pull off a quick lane change if strapped into some decent sort of sure footed car.
Yes, you will likely be ok getting the car to a stop from high speed on the gradual motorway bend but a little toy of a car will be pushing its limits much sooner than a decent one and any attempt to tighten up the bend due to obstruction or whatever will likely push the little fiat over the edge of its capability whereas a good stable car will have lots more capability spare in this situation.