Putting up an Ornamental Ceiling Rose.

johnwest288

Hi there, Just wondering has anyone any experience of using Foam Style Ceiling roses? I am thinking they would look quite cheap or has anyone found they look like a plaster style original

Best value I have found are these so far. Woodies allmost double the price and have not been able to find anyone that sell foam ones.

Im thinking to dollop some Polybond on the underside and maybe one or two screws with a nice thick thread to embed the rose into the ceiling. Anyone any advice?

http://www.covingdirect.ie/index.php?cPath=61_76&osCsid=1a78ef6a37fa02799926d4f0b8a23956

650gs

Nothing like the real thing and just as cheap if not cheaper and as easy to put up

Roscommon John

Hi John, I've seen those foam ceiling roses. Some of them are alright and look well when painted. I've fitted them with clear silicone and when dried filled the edges with white painters caulk before painting.

Plaster ceiling roses are a little trickier to fit, you need to remove the light fitting and then locate the ceiling joist or nogging to screw into. You then need to scribe or mark the area with a stanley knife slightly smaller than the ceiling rose to provied a key for the adhesive. I use non slip tiling adhesive, it's the same as coving adhesive, skimcoat or joint filler will work also. You will need to pre drill the ceiling rose carefully for the screws, offer up the rose to the ceiling and position it to the joist and mark it so when you put it in place with adhesive you know where the screws are going.

Dampen the back of the rose with a mix of water and pva, apply a coat of tile adhesive and pull the wires through the rose ( MAKE SURE THE POWER IS OFF, get an electrician to disconnect the light if you are unexperienced ) push the rose into place on the ceiling with a slight twisting motion to bed it in, remember to fit it in the correct position for the screws, becareful plaster roses are prone to cracking with excess pressure. when in place screw it to the joist carefully I start with a cordless finish and hand tighten with a screwdriver again becareful of the rose cracking. Fill the holes with the adhesive and fill around the edges with adhesive also. Use a damp sponge to rub off the excess for a neat finish. Leave to dry for a day or two before painting. Plaster roses will need priming with thinned paint to seal it, before a finish coat.

Best of luck.

whizbang

you cannot use silicone on polystyrene foam. Use acrylic.

test your paint on a small bit of the back side before doing the whole lot. Then you will need multiple coats of paint to make it look real

Roscommon John

whizbang wrote: »

you cannot use silicone on polystyrene foam. Use acrylic.

test your paint on a small bit of the back side before doing the whole lot. Then you will need multiple coats of paint to make it look real

I beg to differ, I've put up several of the cheap foam ceiling roses with silicone sealant with no problems, ever.

whizbang

O crap, i'm getting old. Its not the problem using silicone on polystyrene, it shouldn't be used on plaster.

650gs

The plaster rose is the wayto go its no big deal to put one up but you need bonding compound a small amount is all thats needed just wet the rose with water and it will stick no prob two screws into the plaster will hold it till the compound sets should take 10 min its a very easy job and you will not remove the compound

johnwest288

Cheers for the advice lads. Yeah think plaster one is the way to go. Which Adhexive should i use there are 3 options . And would a thick threaded screw into the ceiling be ok or does one really need to get into a wooden batten above. They would be small enough ceiling roses max 38 cm across

Best Adhesive?
1 Artex Ready Mix Multi Purpose Adhesive
2 Artex Multi Purpose Moulding Adhesive
3 PVA Bond


http://www.goodwins.ie/p-349-pva-bond-1lt.aspx
http://www.goodwins.ie/search.aspx?SearchTerm=artex&x=0&y=0

Thanks again

650gs

You need Bonding compound if you use this it will never move and all you need are two drywall screws into the plaster, its only to hold it till the compound drys