moral dilemma: unemployment vs tax evasion

hames

What would you do if you were offered a job where you found out your future boss was not paying tax (and not deducting it from you either)?

Assume you are 22 years old and this is a €28,000 salary.

What would you do?

I was in this situation before, and as it happened something came up which meant I was no longer available for work so the decision was made for me. I'd like to think I'd have listened to my conscience and turned it down, but to whose benefit?

What would you do?

Would you stay on the Dole for God knows how long, or would you take the job - both can mean an unfair cost to the taxpayer.

Mr. Incognito

Do you know that he will not be paying tax or is this speculation?

Take the job, ANY job is better than the dole

If it transpires that he is not paying tax he is the liable party, feel free to rat him to Revenue

Seachmall

I'd take the job in a heartbeat.

hames

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Do you know that he will not be paying tax or is this speculation?

Your friend works there and has told you.

The company may be evading tax to stay afloat. If they are hit with a huge revenue bill, the company will go under.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

"Pop quiz, hot shot"

December2012

Take the job. Come off the dole.

At least there is no money being paid to you from general coffers (which of course you are entitled to do).

The question remains that there's no money being paid for your tax contribution.

Pay tax as self employed?

Clandestine

Take the job... would benefit me more in the long run, but I would be weary of getting caught.

donvito99

Pay your taxes like the rest of us.

And by us I mean not me cause I'm a student!


Yippee

Mr. Incognito

hames wrote: »

Your friend works there and has told you.

The company may be evading tax to stay afloat. If they are hit with a huge revenue bill, the company will go under.

Do not believe your friend who may not have any taxes deducted as he may have joined late last year, had unallocated credits which reduced his tax to nil.

Take the job and stop casting aspertions you cannot verify yet

Annasopra

You see if you do it and then lose the job you won't be able to claim the dole as your prsi credits wouldn't be paid in

Sh1tbag OToole

We have been brainwashed into expecting nothing in return for general taxation like VAT and income tax and motor tax and excise and that property tax is for local services. So the obvious solution is to pay nothing but property tax to keep any useful services that the government provides and let all the quangos and bloat in the government die off.

hames

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Do not believe your friend who may not have any taxes deducted as he may have joined late last year, had unallocated credits which reduced his tax to nil.

Take the job and stop casting aspertions you cannot verify yet

In the case at hand, there was no doubt about the company not paying taxes, he was in a position to know about what the company was doing. No employees were under any illusions, this was not a large company at all, and employees were given a specific story to repeat should Revenue ever arrive.

In any case, I'm using that experience as an example and asking in a similar, hypothetical case where a prospective employee has been told with certainty that taxes are being evaded.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

hames wrote: »

Your friend works there and has told you.

The company may be evading tax to stay afloat. If they are hit with a huge revenue bill, the company will go under.

Now the risk there, I assume, might be that the company won;t be able to pay you...

candy-gal1

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Do you know that he will not be paying tax or is this speculation?

Take the job, ANY job is better than the dole

If it transpires that he is not paying tax he is the liable party, feel free to rat him to Revenue

I have to say something on that sentence, and fix it tbh, from experience right now and in the past few years any full time and minimum wage paying at least type of job is better than being on the dole but thats all really thats better than it tbh Ive done the latter, getting less than minimum wage and working about 2days at most and imho its not worth it, unless there was no dole available of course then thats a different story! The only reason I stayed tbh is because I wanted to finish up my college education as best I could and also because I didnt actually know the Dole was viable to me, at least so easily anyway.

OneArt

When it comes to supporting myself, I'd take the cash before giving it to a government.

I don't approve of tax evasion, but bills have got to be paid.

kiffer

Sure if your getting paid cash in hand undeclared then you could claim the dole at the same time... and rent allowance and medical card...
Why would you stop at just tax evasion?

And you could rob grannies too...
Why stop there you could defraud whole countries!

Ray Palmer

What people are ignoring here is the competing companies.
The company paying the tax along with their employees has to compete with a company that has a smaller overhead.
So you are putting other peoples' jobs at risk for your own personal beneift. Do you think a company not paying tax is going to be paying their insurance or take care of you if you have a an accident while working for them?

lahalane

Go on the dole and look for other jobs. If you were offered a job paying 28 grand then you probably have a good CV so hopefully another job would turn up.

People say that the dole is scummy but it's certainly a lot more acceptable than tax evasion...or at least it should be.